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From: Benjamin Geer <ben@socialtools.net>
To: brogoff@speakeasy.net
Cc: "caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] does class polymorphism need to be so complicated?
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:40:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F440702.8040704@socialtools.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308201312120.7047-100000@grace.speakeasy.net>

brogoff@speakeasy.net wrote:
> Yes, OCaml doesn't have implicit subtyping. [...]
 > If you want to solve your problem, you'll need to coerce, and you
> can solve it fairly simply by replacing the troublesome line below with one of 
> the following 
> 
> tp#process (et :> fbbq) ;;
 >
 > or
 >
 > let proc o = (new thing_processor)#process (o :> fbbq);;
 > proc et;;

I've thought some more about this idea of wrapper functions, and 
actually, it doesn't seem simple at all.

In an object-oriented program, *all* methods are potentially 
polymorphic; this is what makes object orientation useful.  It means 
that you can always pass, to a method in class C, an instance of a class 
that didn't exist yet when C was written.  A library's author therefore 
doesn't need to anticipate all the classes that will ever use the library.

If you used wrapper functions to do coercions, you would need a wrapper 
function for every method in the program.  This would be extremely 
cumbersome and ugly, and hardly object-oriented.

Doing coercions at the call site is equally cumbersome, and you lose the 
ability to change the method so that it accepts a less derived class.

It seems to me that the idea of interfaces (class types) is quite 
powerful, and would be a good solution, if only the syntax for using 
them in method definitions were not so complicated.

Ben

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-20 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-20 15:42 Benjamin Geer
2003-08-20 16:05 ` Brian Hurt
2003-08-20 16:19   ` Richard Jones
2003-08-20 16:25   ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-20 17:09     ` brogoff
2003-08-20 17:25       ` Jacques Carette
2003-08-20 23:34         ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-08-21 13:27           ` Jacques Carette
2003-08-20 18:19       ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-20 20:39         ` brogoff
2003-08-20 21:04           ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21  0:28             ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-08-21  8:17               ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21  8:58                 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-08-21  9:38                   ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21 11:44                     ` Remi Vanicat
2003-08-21 13:11                       ` Richard Jones
2003-08-21 16:41                         ` Remi Vanicat
2003-08-21 18:04                     ` brogoff
2003-08-21 20:20                       ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21 23:35                         ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-22  3:59                           ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-08-22  7:12                             ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21 13:38                   ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21  0:58             ` brogoff
2003-08-20 23:40           ` Benjamin Geer [this message]
2003-08-21  1:29             ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-08-21  9:19               ` Benjamin Geer
2003-08-21 18:44               ` Chris Clearwater
2003-08-20 20:43   ` Issac Trotts

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