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From: Frederic van der Plancke <fvdp@decis.be>
To: caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Int overflow in literals
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:59:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FA15194.DAA6045F@decis.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FA14C4C.2010608@baretta.com>

Alex Baretta wrote:
> 
> Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
> > I understand that int overflow is not checked on arithmetic for
> > efficiency reasons, but IMHO it would be better if it was checked
> > at least in literals. When someone writes 10000000000, he certainly
> > does not mean -737418240.
> >
> > It caused confusion in a class when someone was interactively testing
> > a function with larger and larger inputs.
> >
> 
> I bet the official answer is "It's can't be done because native integers
> are 31 bits on 32 bit platforms, 63 bits on 64 bit platforms, so what is
> parser supposed to do? Especially in the case of the bytecode compiler."
> Although, I suppose something could be done in the toplevel.

I think int_of_string is the culprit and must change (last time I checked,
int_of_string "10000000000" returned -737418240).
(sorry if that's already been done in 3.07, I haven't tried it yet.)

There's not much execution time to gain by not letting it check the overflow,
and there's no easy way to write a "correct" safety wrapper for that function
(as it would have to accept arguments like "-0000000123456789", it
would be easier to rewrite it from scratch.)

Ditto for int_of_float (int_of_float 10000000000.0 = -737418240), even
though there the safety wrapper is easier to write (and the relative loss of
execution time would probably be greater.))

I think that understanding "language safety" as "never triggers access
violation" is a tad restrictive...

Frédéric

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-30 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-30 13:53 Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2003-10-30 17:37 ` Alex Baretta
2003-10-30 17:59   ` Frederic van der Plancke [this message]
2003-10-30 19:20     ` Oleg Trott
2003-10-30 19:40       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2003-10-30 20:05 ` Issac Trotts
2003-10-30 21:14   ` Oleg Trott
2003-10-30 21:26     ` Kenneth Knowles
2003-10-31  0:18       ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-10-31  2:05         ` Kenneth Knowles
2003-11-02 15:05     ` skaller
2003-11-02 16:23       ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-02 16:39         ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2003-11-07  7:22         ` skaller
2003-10-30 21:36   ` Frederic van der Plancke
2003-10-30 23:27     ` Issac Trotts
2003-10-30 23:43     ` Oleg Trott
2003-10-31 16:42 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-10-31 17:39   ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2003-10-31 17:50   ` Oleg Trott
2003-11-02 15:23   ` skaller
2003-11-02 16:37     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk

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