From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id DAA12424; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 03:25:08 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA12876 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 03:25:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from swordfish.cs.caltech.edu (swordfish.cs.caltech.edu [131.215.44.124]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id hB91wAr28043 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:58:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from cs.caltech.edu (wasco.cs.caltech.edu [131.215.44.173]) by swordfish.cs.caltech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A53DF215 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:57:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD52C14.4090608@cs.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:57:40 -0800 From: Aleksey Nogin Organization: California Institute of Technology, Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031030 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] Using Bugzilla for OCaml - will be willing to host or help setting up. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; bugzilla:01 bugzilla:01 configuring:01 followup:01 jut:99 bug:01 reporters:99 626:99 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 permanent:98 caltech:01 caltech:01 subscribe:97 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk About a year ago there already was a discussion on using Bugzilla for tracking OCaml issues/patches. In http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200211/msg00275.html Xavier Leroy wrote >> Would there be any way to get Bugzilla installed at Inria? > > Bugzilla has a reputation of being awfully hard to install. If this is indeed the main reason for not using Bugzilla, I would be willing to host OCaml Bugzilla at http://bugzilla.metaprl.org/ and/or help with setting up and configuring Bugzilla on another machine, as well as help finding a good way to move the current data over. The reasons I dislike the current setup and would very much prefer to see Bugzilla used for OCaml are numerous: (a) In current setup, there is no reliable way to post a followup on an existing issue. Most of the time when I try doing it, a new entry gets created. (b) There is no easy way to attach files (patches/testcases/etc) to existing issues. One can only try to add things inline, but even if that works (see (a)), it is ugly and hard to manage. (c) There is no easy "CC" list that one can subscribe to in order to get notified when something happens to a particular entry. (d) The search function is very primitive (e) As an "outsider", I feel like I am getting very little feedback on the things I submit (when they jut sit there and I do not know what is going on), Bugzilla's "NEW/ASSIGNED/REOPENED/RESOLVED/etc" bug status classification (together with an "assigned to" field!) does not require much more from the developers, but (in my experience) gives much better feedback to the reporters. (f) Entries do not have permanent URLs. Every time an entry is re-classified (for example, when it is moved out of "incoming"), the URL changes. This means that I can not just point people to an entry directly, but instead they have to go through several steps to get there. In short, I feel that having Bugzilla has a potential to enable me to be a better contributor to OCaml. Of course, I have no idea whether this is something OCaml team needs or wants. -- Aleksey Nogin Home Page: http://nogin.org/ E-Mail: nogin@cs.caltech.edu (office), aleksey@nogin.org (personal) Office: Jorgensen 70, tel: (626) 395-2907 ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners