From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA24892; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:05 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24457 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailer.zkm.de (mailer.zkm.de [193.197.168.42]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id i058A4H19320 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.zkm.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer.zkm.de (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i058Albc029599 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from zkm.de (ruth.zkm.de [192.168.200.57]) by mail.zkm.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i058AkNH029596 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3FF970F7.8000603@zkm.de> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 09:13:11 -0500 From: Adolf Mathias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] Tcl/Tk References: <1073239304.1014.22.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> <20040104184320.GA4805@grand> <87hdzbplk7.dlv@wanadoo.fr> <1073249373.995.48.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> <1073271833.13429.8.camel@pelican> In-Reply-To: <1073271833.13429.8.camel@pelican> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; zkm:99 lablgtk:01 gui:01 stations:99 mbyte:01 toolkit:01 mbyte:01 api:01 hooking:01 widgets:01 widgets:01 clunky:01 toolkit:01 ocaml:01 gtk:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk skaller wrote: >I have lablgtk. It would appear Redhat -- not to mention >the GNU people -- regard Gtk as the standard GUI, and >consider Tk obsolete. Tk isn't installed on RH9 by default >and there is no install option to include it. > >I agree. I don't run Tcl/Tk as a matter of principle. >It sucks .. :-) > > Don't want to start a religious war here, but I beg to disagree - When Tcl/Tk appeared in the early 90s, it was quick and usable on the Sun stations in our lab (<100MHz, 32MByte if I remember well), and allowed you to do some amazing things due to the tight integration of the windowing toolkit and Tcl. And the canvas is still a wonderful piece of software. Gtk on the other hand has a very sluggish feeling on my Pentium 2.4 GHz notebook with 512 MByte, and the C API is just awful when it comes to hooking widgets and signals together - nowhere as simple as Tcl's bind commands for widgets and canvas items. And then the config database... OK, I have to admit that design-wise, some of the GTK skins look a bit nicer that the clunky Tk widgets ;) I guess that a native OCaml toolkit would be a real killer. Dolfi ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners