From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781ABBB84 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5QDNOFl015199 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:24 +0200 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11613 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.196]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5QDNNtN015194 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:23 +0200 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o1so1351276nzf for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:23:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G2/qPYtQXGfvpNXxDI+5uTSFlVGPgZ3kz3mtu8nElZB/IwFi6ujyXxm6aUF33OaAwLn9+CrVOseU3wXNs7zuLtiJXQnr+UhtufvydCfbmyFcikOn9uJ4bFfrBSEyg3KkUA/1a//XXxXJ/k4POjwjtZQsa3srM38G13v6v47pw3E= Received: by 10.65.252.16 with SMTP id e16mr4131833qbs; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.250.4 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3d13dcfc0606260623p50522a28nfb660a3d35d83336@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:22 +0200 From: "David MENTRE" To: "Till Varoquaux" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Which development framework for web application in OCaml? Cc: Ocaml In-Reply-To: <9d3ec8300606251007k2508a880me5ca863de4bbfef3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3d13dcfc0606230918i1b20de56ne27a7b823eb06660@mail.gmail.com> <20060623162401.GA19716@furbychan.cocan.org> <9d3ec8300606251007k2508a880me5ca863de4bbfef3@mail.gmail.com> X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 449FDFCB.000 on nez-perce : j-chkmail score : X : 0/20 1 X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 449FDFCC.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 449FDFCB.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 cduce:01 cduce:01 pointer:01 abstraction:01 ocaml:01 wdialog:01 lacks:01 2006:98 dhtml:98 caml-list:01 imho:01 edges:01 btw:02 caml:02 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 Hello Till, 2006/6/25, Till Varoquaux : > There is an ongoing project (which I'm part of) to make a web > framework for cduce. You can check it out here: > http://reglisse.ens.fr/ecduce/ > We (me for the ecduce part, the cduce team for cduce) would be more > than happy to help you out. Thank you for the pointer, even if, right now, I have some issue to understand how an XML toolkit could help me design a dynamic web site. BTW, the ECDuce pages lack a little description on the aim of the project. > P.S. IMHO, although Cduce is a little rough around the edges, going > back to php afterwards is about as painfull as moving back from Caml > to C... I'm already using CDuce to read/write XML files in my server. So I'm suppose to already know it. ;-) > P.P.S as for the ajax and toolkit abstraction you might want to have a > look at openlaszlo http://www.openlaszlo.org/. An integration with an > xml oriented should be quite easy to do... Well... I've looked at OpenLazlo and I'm quite skeptical on such a framework. Non-withstanding that OpenLazlo is aimed at Flash environment and that DHTML support is apparently still under development, I'm not really fond of technology targetting only Javascript-only web browser. I would like to develop my web site for both new and old browsers. Moreover, OpenLazlo servers are in Java, and using XML has a programming language seems a bit silly to me. Regarding my own (quite foggy) requirements, I would like to develop a web site using a efficient language that I like (OCaml), but without re-inventing the wheel, thus my search for an OCaml friendly web framework. Until now, I've found technologies for developing such a framework, but no real read-to-use framework (except maybe WDialog which lacks support beyond basic HTML) like those[1] that can be found for other languages (Java, PHP and Python). Best wishes, david [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_application_frameworks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks