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From: Alex Baretta <alex@baretta.com>
To: Alexander Epifanov <epifanov@komset.ru>, Ocaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:56:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <401627A9.9060901@baretta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040127063230.GA12482@inv_machine>

Alexander Epifanov wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have read message about Skala language, and I think (it's only my IMHO),
> that ocaml have no future without some features, like concurrent programming
> (CP) and chance to use libraries from the other languages.

Thanks for sharing you "humble opinion" with us. Let me share mine with 
you: my company has chosen Ocaml as it's primary general purpose 
language and is devoting most of it's R&D efforts towards new 
development based on/for Ocaml.

> 1) Erlang uses build in CP, but Skala has a library for it, IMHO it would be a
> good way for ocaml feature. Thread module isn't enough for effective usage of
> CP.

Ever heard about message passing? Did you ever try running a 
multithreaded application on a server cluster?

> 2) No one would use ocaml without libraries, and it's so hard to rewrite them
> all in ocaml. external functions aren't enough to use libraries from Languages
> like java or c++.

No one. Except maybe Xavier et al. in the Cristal group. Except maybe 
myself and all of my colleagues. Except all of those who subscribe to 
the mailing list. Except hundreds of researchers and students.

How about "No one you know would use Ocaml with Java bindings".  No one 
I know would use a language with Java bindings for any realistic project.

> Are any plans about these two features exists ?

I definitely hope Xavier will not waste his time coding JNI's to use 
ocaml within Java.

Alex

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-27  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-27  6:32 Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27  8:56 ` Alex Baretta [this message]
2004-01-27  9:43   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 18:32     ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-28  4:38       ` skaller
2004-01-28  5:30         ` james woodyatt
     [not found]   ` <40168498.6070708@tfb.com>
2004-01-27 19:10     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-28 13:29       ` David Fox
2004-01-28 15:12         ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-27  9:41 ` Alexander Danilov
2004-01-27  9:57   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 16:43     ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-27 18:19       ` David Fox
2004-01-27 18:47       ` Richard Jones
2004-01-27 19:29         ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-28 13:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-28 23:26 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-28 23:47   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:00     ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:04       ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:11       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:34         ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:47           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer' Matt Gushee
2004-01-29  8:52           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 16:20             ` fancy types (was Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer) William Lovas
2004-01-29 17:13               ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:26                 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-01-29 17:17               ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 17:41                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 19:18                   ` William Lovas
2004-01-30 10:36                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-31  3:39                       ` William Lovas
2004-02-01  2:11                         ` Vasile Rotaru
2004-02-02 11:08                           ` Florian Hars
2004-01-29 18:33                 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 17:53         ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer skaller
2004-01-29  5:20     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-29  6:36   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-29  8:53   ` [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency james woodyatt
2004-01-29  9:46     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 10:37       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 11:51         ` Michael Hicks
2004-01-29 12:20         ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 12:43           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 15:42         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 16:11           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 16:56             ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 17:19               ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:43               ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 17:54                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 18:08                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  0:19                   ` Lauri Alanko
2004-01-29 19:37                 ` skaller
2004-01-30  0:05                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  6:52                     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30  8:53                       ` Issac Trotts
2004-01-30 20:45                       ` skaller
2004-01-31  6:29                         ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 20:12                     ` skaller
2004-01-29 18:35         ` skaller
2004-01-29  9:56     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 18:26     ` skaller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-23 10:19 [Caml-list] ocaml killer Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27  8:28 ` Richard Jones

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