From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA10696; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:55:52 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11181 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:55:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.baretta.com ([213.255.109.130]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2IHuJKW022956 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:56:20 +0100 Received: from baretta.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alex.baretta.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i2IHuDZo004360; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:56:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4059E2BD.6060902@baretta.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:56:13 +0100 From: Alex Baretta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Geer , Ocaml Subject: Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) References: <4059994E.2010802@socialtools.net> <20040318151234.B21768@pauillac.inria.fr> <4059D9D6.4080903@socialtools.net> In-Reply-To: <4059D9D6.4080903@socialtools.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; baretta:01 baretta:01 ocaml's:01 caml-list:01 run-time:01 extlib:01 delegating:01 thrive:99 tapping:99 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 alex:01 alex:01 unix:02 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 175 Benjamin Geer wrote: > Users emphatically do not want to have to choose between using the > standard library and using a third-party library. This forces them to > place a bet: which library is more likely to provide more useful > features in the future? This is surely one reason why ExtLib has not > been more actively developed and more widely adopted. > > This problem would be solved if INRIA allowed the community to take > responsibility for the standard libraries. > > Ben I agree. And, let me add, Inria can get quite a bit of resources, financial and human, by delegating to the community. We are willing to participate, and like us a lot of others. Xavier, what you guys must do is not pontificate but define once and for all the official role of the community in relation to Inria and to the Caml team. Hey, after all we are as eager as you guys to see Ocaml grow and thrive. But the effort cannot start from the community. It must be backed by authoritative leaders, M. Xavier Leroy being a reasonable candidate. Take advantage of the opportunity of tapping the community's time and work for the benefit of Ocaml as a whole: research project, industrial product, free-software community. See what Mozilla has been to Netscape. Alex ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners