From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA00916; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:54:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA32675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:54:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mx.laposte.net (mx.laposte.net [81.255.54.11]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7MGsgmL016008 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:54:43 +0200 Received: from laposte.net (80.8.56.217) by mx.laposte.net (7.0.028) id 4108FDF200C56E38; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:54:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4128CFBC.9000500@laposte.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:54:20 +0200 From: Olivier Grisel Reply-To: olivier.grisel@laposte.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040313) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Geer , "O'Caml Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Some logo for your OCaml related websites References: <4128BE44.6050106@laposte.net> <4128C40F.60702@socialtools.net> <4128CA04.9020104@laposte.net> <4128CBB6.4090902@socialtools.net> In-Reply-To: <4128CBB6.4090902@socialtools.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8D6E50E3A778D1648AA56053" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 4128CFD2.009 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 openpgp:01 2440:01 3156:01 caml-list:01 grass:01 ecrit:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 face:98 olivier:02 olivier:02 campaign:97 advertising:97 logo:96 X-Attachments: type="application/pgp-signature" name="signature.asc" name="signature.asc" Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8D6E50E3A778D1648AA56053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I forward this last mail to the caml-list since I forgot to "replay-all" before ... Benjamin Geer a écrit : > Olivier Grisel wrote: > >> I feel very sorry butI wasn't aware of the origin of this "Joe Camel" >> think. > > > It was a huge, very controversial advertising campaign... a lot of > people were (and still are) very angry about it, all over the world. > >> I can remove the grass bit to try to break the association with the >> Joe Camel. >> >> What do you think ? > > > I don't think it would help. The shape of the camel face (even without > the sunglasses) is what makes it Joe Camel. This was the intention of > the OCaml team when they chose this logo, apparently as a joke (in very > bad taste, I think). > > I think OCaml needs a completely new logo. > > The problem of how to make it different from the Perl logo is > interesting. Actually O'Reilly has a trademark on the use of a camel to > represent a programming language: > > http://perl.oreilly.com/usage > > I asked them about this last year, and they said they currently had no > position on the use of a camel to represent the OCaml language. I don't > know whether they might eventually cause trouble. You might want to ask > them about it. > > Another alternative would be to make a logo that doesn't represent a > camel at all. I agree. Anybody has a better idea ? What could symobolize the ocaml programming language ? OReilly seems to think a horse[1] might do, but I'm not quite so sure :o) [1] http://web.linuxfr.org/2001/03/05/2585.html Best, -- Olivier --------------enig8D6E50E3A778D1648AA56053 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBKM/ETsBRE+WZ2SARAhfGAJsHTzDU75yyGFx4XOBXv6EdWTcrTwCgtCDJ 3Qd0Fn8ouR8V3a3bHa8cMy4= =YX8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8D6E50E3A778D1648AA56053-- ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners