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From: "chris.danx" <chris.danx@ntlworld.com>
To: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: Caml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] WxWidgets?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:29:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <414A05A5.7080603@ntlworld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040916202511.GA24789@annexia.org>

Richard Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:08:48PM +0100, chris.danx wrote:
> 
>>Has anyone made such a binding?  If not I was thinking about using swig 
>>and the wxpython interfaces as the starting point for a wxwidgets 
>>binding for ocaml.  Has anyone tried to do this in the past?  Any 
>>thoughts on the issue?
> 
> I've looked into this in the past, but we ended up using Gtk +
> Gtk-Wimp on Windows, which worked quite well.

How was that?  Choosing WxWidgets instead of Gtk+ was an option I was 
evaluating (not keen on using gtk+ at all really, it's my least 
favourite gui toolkit).  I might stick with Gtk+ though!  It's not like 
it's a commercial application, it's just for fun and going with Gtk 
means it will actually be completed.


> Here are my observations on going the WxWindows route though:
> 
> (1) WxWindows is pretty good.  (Ah, looking at their website, I see
> they've renamed it to WxWidgets!).  WxWIDGETS is pretty good.  It's a
> very complete way to develop cross-platform applications.  In
> particular, it has platform-specific file and print dialogs, which you
> won't get if you use Gtk.  In fact if you use Gtk you won't get print
> dialogs at all - I had to write my own print dialog for Windows which
> was no fun at all.

Thankfully it's a Tetris clone.  No dialogs required. :)

I plan to develop something more substantial in Ocaml, but for now I'm 
just playing with OpenGL and other things.


> (2) There seem to be three decent approaches to using WxWidgets under
> OCaml: Python, Perl or native.  Native is going to be the best, but is
> going to take a heck of a lot of effort.
> 
> (3) Python or Perl: it's easiest just to use PyCaml or Perl4Caml to
> interface with the Wx* libraries under those languages.  I don't see
> why you'd want to go through SWIG for this.

I wasn't thinking of interfacing to perl or python.  Just using the 
wxWidgets swig interfaces used by wxPython as the start of a binding.  I 
was not sure what kind of effort would be involved in that but from a 
little experiment just now I realised how much effort it would be... 
huge.  The problem with this approach is that the python stuff has to be 
filtered down to a managable size which is likely to be more work than 
starting from scratch.


> (4) Native: definitely the best performance and the cleanest approach,
> however it's lots of work.  (Now of course if you wanted to *hire*
> Merjis to do the work, contact me off-list ... :-)

If I had the money maybe! :)

*checks last nights lottery ticket* ... two numbers and another number 
just one away for a tenner AGAIN! *sigh*


Chris

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-16 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-16 20:08 chris.danx
2004-09-16 20:25 ` Richard Jones
2004-09-16 21:29   ` chris.danx [this message]
2004-09-16 21:39     ` Richard Jones
2004-09-16 22:00       ` Daan Leijen
2004-09-17  0:06         ` SooHyoung Oh
2004-09-17  4:39           ` skaller
2004-09-17  7:13           ` Daan Leijen
2004-09-17  8:04             ` Jean-Marc EBER
2004-09-19 21:46         ` François-Xavier HOUARD
2004-09-16 23:58       ` chris.danx
2004-09-17  8:10         ` Richard Jones
2004-09-17 12:38     ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-09-17 13:11       ` chris.danx
2004-09-17 13:51         ` skaller
2004-09-17 18:31           ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-17  7:53   ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-09-16 20:44 ` Micha
2004-09-16 20:56 ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2004-09-20  1:02 ` [Caml-list] WxWidgets? - wxcaml SooHyoung Oh
2004-09-21 23:21   ` Zeno

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