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From: Alex Baretta <alex@baretta.com>
To: David Brown <caml-list@davidb.org>, caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Recursive lists
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:19:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4166CC3E.3080909@baretta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041008154347.GA14210@old.davidb.org>

David Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 04:42:44PM +0200, Alex Baretta wrote:
> 
>>Keith Wansbrough wrote:
> 
> I doubt that most users of list operations want the extra overhead needed
> to check for cycles.  Recursive lists are fairly rare in strict languages.

I agree. They are very rarely of any use.

> Dave

I agree. I would not want the overhead in general, unless I knew 
beforehand that cyclic list are possible. But this is an optimization we 
can count on so long as we can prove the invariant that our structures 
are not cyclic. This is obvious in the core language (no Obj), but might 
not be so if functions linke cycle are available. When the invariant 
cannot be proven valid for all meaningful input, or when it is known 
that the input can reasonably be cyclic, then I argue that the standard 
library should provide some means to manipulate the such structures 
safely. Of course, a separate Cyclic_list module could be defined to 
access the cyclic-safe functions, but from an abstract point of view 
such functions logically belong to List.

Alex

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-08 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-08 13:20 Luca Pascali
2004-10-08 13:31 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:32   ` skaller
2004-10-08 14:42   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:43     ` David Brown
2004-10-08 17:19       ` Alex Baretta [this message]
2004-10-08 23:29         ` skaller
2004-10-09  8:35           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-09  9:07             ` skaller
2004-10-09  8:32         ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 17:18     ` Wolfgang Lux
2004-10-11  0:44   ` Brian Hurt
2004-10-11  6:32     ` William Lovas
2004-10-11  6:52       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-10-13 11:29         ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 11:22       ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11  9:04     ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:05 ` Sébastien Furic
2004-10-08 14:44   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:09     ` Jon Harrop
2004-10-08 15:13   ` james woodyatt
2004-10-08 14:26 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-10-08 18:28   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11  8:01     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-10-11  9:20       ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-10-11 13:38       ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 13:49         ` [Caml-list] " Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 15:33         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2004-10-11 16:09           ` Richard Jones
2004-10-11 16:40           ` [Caml-list] About Obj Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-10-13 11:59             ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11 16:24         ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) james woodyatt
2004-10-11 16:46           ` brogoff
2004-10-11 17:24             ` james woodyatt
2004-10-12  0:19               ` skaller
2004-10-20 22:10             ` Greg K
2004-10-12 15:19           ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-13 11:42           ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 21:19             ` brogoff
2004-10-14  9:52               ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-10-14 17:38                 ` brogoff
2004-10-15  8:22               ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-15 17:02                 ` brogoff
2004-10-17 13:42                   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-12  6:17       ` [Caml-list] Recursive lists sejourne_kevin

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