From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE86DBB91 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:14:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0R5ErlW005591 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:14:53 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07723 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:14:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mz3.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0R5EpTt005585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:14:52 +0100 Received: from [216.241.35.41] (helo=[10.0.0.2]) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cu1zW-0002Lx-6r for caml-list@inria.fr; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:14:50 -0700 Message-ID: <41F8791B.1040600@havenrock.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:16:11 -0700 From: Matt Gushee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050108) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OpenGL support in LablGTK2? References: <20041208.093321.97240145.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <20041224.105646.130245849.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <41D3AF22.4040207@havenrock.com> <20041231.183021.102493377.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <20041231.183021.102493377.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 41F878CD.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 41F878CB.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 lablgtk:01 wrote:01 gtkglarea:01 arises:01 gtkglarea:01 lablgtk:01 bindings:01 bindings:01 gtk:01 gtk:01 gimp:01 grouchy:98 jacques:01 opengl:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: Hello, Jacques-- I owe you thanks for your patient response to my somewhat grouchy questioning. Sorry about the long delay; I just haven't been dealing well with e-mail lately. Jacques Garrigue wrote: > Then something will have to be done about it at that time. > But this has been the situation for already a few years, and > gtkglarea2 is still working, so this doesn't seem a big concern. > Note also that the great thing about free software is that anybody is > allowed to fix a problem when it arises. I certainly know that. Unfortunately, the people affected most by a problem aren't always in the best position to fix it. I guess I was frustrated because I would like to provide a complete package, and it happens that the problematic component is one that I really don't understand well. > You just have to create a gtkglarea2 package together with the > lablgtk2 package. I will probably provide gtkglarea as part of the lablgtk2 package. I don't think it's good policy to introduce new Linux packages whose upstream source is no longer maintained. > Not a big deal. Much less work than writing an > interface for gtkglext and all the compatibility bindings (the > compatibility bindings are the painful part.) I don't doubt it, and in principle I have always been a strong advocate of backwards compatibility. But in this case I wonder (as mentioned in an earlier post) how much it really matters. Are there in fact significant projects using LablGTK2 with OpenGL? > I'm satisfied that the situation is not as bad as I feared. Thanks for the clarification. > Note that some configurations breaking with gtk is not an unusual > event. Oh, yes, an old familiar story. Back around '98 or '99 I got very annoyed at the GTK development team: it seemed about once a month they would release a new "must-have" version that would break half the applications on my system, including--most ironically--the GIMP. Things have settled down a good deal since then. -- Matt Gushee Englewood, CO, USA