Compiling for Mac OS 64 bit?

Compiling for Mac OS 64 bit?

[Fritz Anderson]

I've been asked to research the use of Ocaml in high-performance  
computing applications on Mac OS X. I take this to mean (a) 64-bit  
applications (the client says so) and (b) compiled applications.

I've configured the build with
     ./configure -cc 'gcc -arch ppc64' -tk-no-x11
... which seems to produce the interpreter with no complaints, with  
the only exception that ocamlmklib.ml had to be edited so that '-arch  
ppc64' was appended to the value of the mksharedlib variable. Make  
bootstrap concludes without error.

(Caveats that an interpreter that has to haul 64-bit entities around  
instead of 32-bit entities is apt to be slower, are already  
understood. By me. The client sees a knob labeled 32/64, and wants to  
turn it all the way up.)

Make opt is not so happy. One example is that the assembler balks at

_camlPervasives__55:
     .long    _caml_int64_ops
     .long    1018167296
     .long    4372995238176751616
     .data
     .long    2303

because the huge number should take the .quad directive, not .long.  
But given that the huge number is 0x3cb0000000000000, I have bad  
feelings that this is some badly-cleared or -shifted native integer.  
In fact, my skimming of the compiler source suggests that the  
compiler doesn't do native 64-bit pointers and integers.

Is there a way to configure Ocaml to produce a 64-bit compiler, or is  
there a project for one? (I know, I'm asking for magic beans.) Or do  
I tell the client that on PowerPC/Mac OS, it's 32 bits or nothing?

     -- F

Fritz Anderson
Mac Programmer
University of Chicago

Re: [Caml-list] Compiling for Mac OS 64 bit?

[Xavier Leroy]

> I've been asked to research the use of Ocaml in high-performance
> computing applications on Mac OS X. I take this to mean (a) 64-bit
> applications (the client says so) and (b) compiled applications.

As you found out, ocamlopt currently cannot generate PPC64 code.
So, it's either bytecode-only in 64-bit mode, or native code in 32-bit
mode.

A PPC64 port of ocamlopt looks reasonably simple, but that will have
to wait until a Mac G5 lands here at INRIA.

> Make opt is not so happy. One example is that the assembler balks at
>
> _camlPervasives__55:
>     .long    _caml_int64_ops
>     .long    1018167296
>     .long    4372995238176751616
>     .data
>     .long    2303
>
> because the huge number should take the .quad directive, not .long.  But
> given that the huge number is 0x3cb0000000000000, I have bad  feelings
> that this is some badly-cleared or -shifted native integer.

No, no, it's a genuine 64-bit integer constant (see the definition of
epsilon_float in stdlib/pervasives.ml).

> In fact, my
> skimming of the compiler source suggests that the  compiler doesn't do
> native 64-bit pointers and integers.

The PowerPC back-end does not, but everything else in OCaml will
gladly handle 64-bit quantities on a 64-bit architecture (e.g. Alpha,
AMD64, IA64).

- Xavier Leroy

Re: [Caml-list] Compiling for Mac OS 64 bit?

[Gregory Lafitte]

If you don't have access to a G5 at INRIA (there seems to be some at  
IRISA, http://www.irisa.fr/paris/General/apple.htm),
I would be very happy to provide you with an account on a G5 machine  
with a ppc64 Linux
(64bit kernel, gcc, libc, ...).

Gregory Lafitte

In the caml-list, on October 27th 2005, Xavier Leroy wrote:

> I've been asked to research the use of Ocaml in high-performance
> computing applications on Mac OS X. I take this to mean (a) 64-bit
> applications (the client says so) and (b) compiled applications.
>

As you found out, ocamlopt currently cannot generate PPC64 code.
So, it's either bytecode-only in 64-bit mode, or native code in 32-bit
mode.

A PPC64 port of ocamlopt looks reasonably simple, but that will have
to wait until a Mac G5 lands here at INRIA.