From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168D6BB9C for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jANEwE0i026569 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:14 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05139 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from net.univ-savoie.fr (net.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.75]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jANEwDR1026563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:13 +0100 Received: from post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.73]) by net.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id jANEw1eo021651 ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:01 +0100 Received: from [193.48.123.45] (d45.lama.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.123.45]) by post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id jANEvvQb023002 ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:57:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4384837B.7030906@univ-savoie.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:58:03 +0100 From: Christophe Raffalli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yaron Minsky Cc: david.baelde@ens-lyon.org, caml-list Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Mandelbrot renderer References: <200511230150.59163.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <53c655920511230000o6e21828cq@mail.gmail.com> <891bd3390511230210k5ff1d9aaha5cc6f9807e460cf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <891bd3390511230210k5ff1d9aaha5cc6f9807e460cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 43848386.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 43848385.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; christophe:01 raffalli:01 christophe:01 raffalli:01 univ-savoie:01 caml-list:01 renderer:01 mldonkey:01 suitability:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 ocaml's:01 solver:01 chablais:01 73376:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 > I think this really is a problem, although there are a few exceptions > (mldonkey and unison come to mind.) But the lack of applications is > not, I think, for lack of suitability of the language. The company > where I work (quick hiring plug: http://janestcapital.com/ocaml.html) > has had quite a bit of luck building rather interesting and practical > trading and financial applications in OCaml, but those are all for > internal use, so it doesn't help much for OCaml's visibility. > And what about python or java ? I do not use a single python program and I only use one java program which is cgoban and one ocaml program which is unison (if I do not count the programs I am using for my research, because my research is related to type system so this is biased). So, for me, ocaml is more visible that python and equally visible than ocaml ... I think this kind of visivility needs time. This is for my desktop computer ... however, on my V800 portable phone, java is very visible (all my games are in java there). May be ocaml software for pdas and phones are the way to make ocaml visible ;-) And as I said in another post, I really would like an OCaml sudoko GENERATOR (not a solver) on my portable phone, I almost finished all the grids I have in the demo of a java commercial program I found on getjar.com, so this now is urgent :-) -- Christophe Raffalli Université de Savoie Batiment Le Chablais, bureau 21 73376 Le Bourget-du-Lac Cedex tél: (33) 4 79 75 81 03 fax: (33) 4 79 75 87 42 mail: Christophe.Raffalli@univ-savoie.fr www: http://www.lama.univ-savoie.fr/~RAFFALLI --------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT: this mail is signed using PGP/MIME At least Enigmail/Mozilla, mutt or evolution can check this signature. The public key is stored on www.keyserver.net ---------------------------------------------