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From: Nicolas Cannasse <ncannasse@motion-twin.com>
To: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: "Michael D. Adams" <mdmkolbe@gmail.com>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficency of varient types
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:02:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4389844B.90008@motion-twin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511262336031.24132@localhost.localdomain>

Brian Hurt wrote:
 >
 >
 > On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Michael D. Adams wrote:
 >
 >> I agree, which is why it was my hope that OCaml might do some of that
 >> for me.  Consider a home brew bool type, "type mybool = Mytrue |
 >> Myfalse".  If the compiler were smart enough, it could represent that
 >> as an unboxed type.
 >
 >
 > The compiler is smart enough to do that already- variants without
 > associated data are represented as ints.

Exactly.
So actually the custom bool can be "safely" casted to the corresponding 
real bool since they have same runtime representation.

 >> From there it might be a small step to
 >> semi-unboxed types such as the one I started this discussion with,
 >> "type value = Int of int | Bool of bool | String of string".
 >
 >
 > The problem here is that the variants take two words- one word which
 > says which variant it is, and the second word which is the unboxed int,
 > unboxed bool, or pointer to the boxed string.

It's a bit more complex.
A variant have a header storing :
  - it's tag
  - some GC bits
  - it's size (number of fields)
Then the data is followed by N fields which are the variant parameters.
That's why there is a semantical difference between

   Tag of int * int

and

   Tag of (int * int)

In the first case it's a 2 fields block, in the second it's a on-field 
block storing a 2 fields tuple.

I think that the compiler is pretty good at unboxing floats and maybe 
int32 when doing some numerical calculus. Other optimizations are more 
tricky.

Nicolas


  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-27  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-25 23:53 Michael D. Adams
2005-11-26  0:31 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-26  1:22   ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-26  9:39     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-28  0:17     ` Obj or not Obj Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  8:41       ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-28  9:27         ` Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  9:33         ` skaller
2005-11-28  8:43       ` Alain Frisch
2005-11-26  2:54   ` [Caml-list] Efficency of varient types skaller
2005-11-27  5:06   ` Michael D. Adams
2005-11-27  5:45     ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-27 10:02       ` Nicolas Cannasse [this message]
2005-11-27 15:35       ` Michael D. Adams
2005-11-27 18:08         ` Brian Hurt
2005-12-02 15:07           ` Michael D. Adams
2005-11-26  1:18 ` Jon Harrop
2005-11-27 14:57 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2005-11-27 15:47   ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2005-11-28  8:14   ` Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  7:24 ` David Baelde
2005-11-28  7:49   ` Jacques Garrigue
2005-11-28 10:01     ` Jon Harrop
2005-11-28 10:26       ` Luc Maranget
2005-11-28  7:53   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-12-01 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-02 15:07   ` [Caml-list] " Michael D. Adams

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