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From: Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com>
To: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
Cc: Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Nested module exposing type from parent?
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:06:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <463546F9-F034-4968-BA62-443CAFD67F93@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPFanBEghH7ebE3gmbsv1SESv6Ur60G5deN8RAG_ryWSUNao1w@mail.gmail.com>

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Maybe I am wrong but I have the feeling that this is totally unrelated  
to Anthony's question?
Could you please explain in more details how it solves the problem?
I actually tried your solution on Anthony's code but it does not solve  
his problem (if I understood it well of course).

--
Vincent Aravantinos
PostDoctoral fellow, Concordia University, Hardware Verification Group
http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~vincent


Le 2 nov. 11 à 19:01, Gabriel Scherer a écrit :

> I see that you solved your problem in a way you find satisfying, but I
> would like to point out that the reason why your original code didn't
> work isn't exactly what you seem to think.
>
> When you define a submodule, the types defined before in the parent
> modules are perfectly accessible and can be referred, just as you
> would do when referring to types defined at the toplevel. You need not
> qualify the type with the outer module name (Vec.t in your example),
> as you are still *inside* this parent module.
>
>  module Vec = struct
>    type t = int
>    module Type = struct
>      type u = t
>    end
>  end
>
>  (1 : Vec.Type.u);;
>
> The problem in your case is that you wish to give the same name to the
> type in Vec and in Vec.Type. This would lead to the following:
>  ... module Type = struct type t = t end ...
>
> But this is ill-defined : it is a recursive type defined as being
> itself. The problem is that the OCaml syntax for type declarations
> always consider them recursive (for values you have "let" and "let
> rec", for types you have "type" which behaves like "type rec" with no
> opt-out way possible). This is a flaw of the OCaml syntax which is
> relatively well-known, see eg. http://ocaml.janestreet.com/?q=node/25
>
> A workaround is to define your inner type "t" in two steps, using an
> different intermediate name to break the cycle:
>
>  module Vec = struct
>    type t = int
>    module Type = struct
>      type u = t
>      type t = u
>    end
>  end
>
>  (1 : Vec.Type.t);;
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Anthony Tavener
> <anthony.tavener@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oops, I didn't do a group-reply... so in case anyone is interested  
>> in what I
>> ended up with:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Nested module exposing type from parent?
>> To: Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Actually, better than I initially thought...
>> I keep this as I have them defined already, except as you said:  
>> include
>> instead of open.
>>   module Vec = struct
>>     module Type = struct
>>       type t = { x: int; y: int }
>>     end
>>     include Type
>>     let make x y = {x;y}
>>     let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>>   end
>> Before, I had instead of the include:
>>   type t = Type.t
>>   open Type
>> Which worked, but then the type used everywhere was Vec.Type.t
>> Thanks again! Simple and effective, and I was looking in all the  
>> wrong
>> places. :)
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank-you Vincent!
>>> Though this requires a home for the "source type" module, at least  
>>> the
>>> types come out right in the end. Thanks!
>>> And this led me to read specifically about include to understand  
>>> what it
>>> really does. :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Vincent Aravantinos
>>> <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Using "include" instead of "open" would work, ie. turning your  
>>>> example
>>>> into:
>>>>
>>>> module Vec_main = struct
>>>>   type t = { x: int; y: int }
>>>>   let make x y = {x;y}
>>>>   let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> module Vec = struct
>>>>   include Vec_main
>>>>   module Type = struct
>>>>     include Vec_main
>>>>     ...
>>>>   end
>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> Then:
>>>> # let n = Vec.make 2 5;;
>>>> val n : Vec.t = {Vec.x = 2; Vec.y = 5}
>>>> # open Vec.Type;;
>>>> # let m = {x=1;y=2};;
>>>> val m : Vec.Type.t = {x = 1; y = 2}
>>>> # Vec.add m n;;
>>>> - : Vec.t = {Vec.x = 3; Vec.y = 7}
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Vincent Aravantinos - Postdoctoral Fellow, Concordia University,  
>>>> Hardware
>>>> Verification Group
>>>>
>>>> On 11/02/2011 03:41 PM, Anthony Tavener wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been struggling with this occasionally...
>>>> I'm using nested modules to "open" access to select features of a  
>>>> module.
>>>> My problem is I can't find a way to *expose* types in the parent  
>>>> module
>>>> through such nested modules.
>>>> A simplified example of what I'm looking at:
>>>>   module Vec = struct
>>>>     type t = { x: int; y: int }
>>>>     let make x y = {x;y}
>>>>     let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>>>>     module Type =
>>>>       (* something which has type t = Vec.t,
>>>>        * with exposed structure when "open"ed.
>>>>        * Also note that Vec is not really an
>>>>        * explicit module like this; instead it
>>>>        * is implemented in vec.ml *)
>>>>   end
>>>> Example usage...
>>>>   let n = Vec.make 2 5
>>>>   open Vec.Type
>>>>   let m = {x=1;y=2}
>>>>   Vec.add m n
>>>>
>>>> To date, I've defined the type in the Type submodule, which is  
>>>> then used
>>>> by the parent module. The unsatisfactory quality of this is that  
>>>> Vec.Type.t
>>>> is the "true" type. Ideally the concrete type would live at  
>>>> Vec.t, with
>>>> "open Vec.Type" bringing the fields of the type into scope.
>>>> As background, here are examples of opening different features of  
>>>> the Vec
>>>> module:
>>>>   let c = Vec.add a b
>>>>   open Vec.Prefixed
>>>>   let c = vadd a b
>>>>   open Vec.Ops
>>>>   let c = a +| b
>>>>   open Vec.Type
>>>>   let c = Vec.add a {x;y;z=0.}
>>>> Apologies if this is really beginner-list material. It's minor,  
>>>> but has
>>>> been bugging me.
>>>> Thank-you for looking,
>>>>  Tony
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-03  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-02 19:41 Anthony Tavener
2011-11-02 20:19 ` Vincent Aravantinos
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     [not found]     ` <CAN=ouMS9rqqNR3KgCBnnjC_HcMrUnftVw643mkmhC_vrpXfv1A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-11-02 21:14       ` Fwd: " Anthony Tavener
2011-11-02 23:01         ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-11-03  0:06           ` Vincent Aravantinos [this message]
2011-11-03  1:03           ` Anthony Tavener
2011-11-03  0:41 ` Martin Jambon
2011-11-03  1:04   ` Anthony Tavener

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