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From: Arnaud Spiwack <aspiwack@lix.polytechnique.fr>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Smells like duck-typing
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:49:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47178E8C.6020304@lix.polytechnique.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1192725564.5999.51.camel@rosella.wigram>

skaller wrote :
> The soundness theory is simple: methods have to be covariant,
> but mutators have to be contravariant, and since mutators
> are also method they have to be *invariant*, and invariance
> effectively means an OO  class cannot have subtypes.
>   
You got that part wrong. I means that subtypes have the same types for 
the same methods (not subtypes, exactly the same types), but it can be 
extended with extra methods (you can be slighlty looser using 
specialisation of the self-type). That's how things work.


And inheritance usually needs to enforce the same invariant condition, 
for the same reasons (since other method inside the inherited class 
could make black-box uses of the overridden method... its type cannot 
change in general). Thus that goes to "generally, all inherited values 
are subtypes" (rational is : if you need to enforce a certain subtyping 
property, it needs to be enforced internally during inheritance as well).


Arnaud Spiwack


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-17 13:35 Dario Teixeira
2007-10-17 14:13 ` [Caml-list] " Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-17 14:47   ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-17 14:25 ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-10-17 15:03   ` skaller
2007-10-17 15:13     ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-17 15:25       ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-17 15:32       ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-10-17 16:21         ` Chris King
2007-10-18  7:28           ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-10-18  8:33             ` [ANN] pa_oo and pa_polymap for 3.10 (Re: [Caml-list] Smells like duck-typing) Jacques Garrigue
2007-10-17 16:57         ` [Caml-list] Smells like duck-typing skaller
2007-10-17 16:52       ` skaller
2007-10-17 16:59         ` Robert Fischer
2007-10-17 14:33 ` Chris King
2007-10-17 14:59   ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-17 15:24 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-10-17 15:26 ` Zheng Li
2007-10-18 16:13   ` Zheng Li
2007-10-18 16:37     ` [Caml-list] " William D. Neumann
2007-10-19  0:58       ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-10-17 19:59 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2007-10-17 20:24 ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18  7:37   ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-10-18 10:31     ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 10:37       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-10-18 13:28       ` Robert Fischer
2007-10-18 14:10         ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 14:18           ` Brian Hurt
2007-10-18 14:29             ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-18 14:45               ` Brian Hurt
2007-10-18 15:02                 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-18 15:07                   ` Robert Fischer
2007-10-18 15:14                     ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-18 16:39                   ` skaller
2007-10-18 16:49                     ` Arnaud Spiwack [this message]
2007-10-18 17:47                       ` skaller
2007-10-18 19:55                         ` Robert Fischer
2007-10-18 16:22                 ` skaller
2007-10-18 16:30                   ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 14:58           ` Robert Fischer
2007-10-18 15:11             ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-18 15:47               ` Loup Vaillant
2007-10-18 16:08                 ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-19 13:08               ` Ed Keith
2007-10-18 16:24           ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 16:35             ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-10-18 16:43             ` Brian Hurt
2007-10-18 17:04               ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-18 17:05               ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 17:22                 ` Brian Hurt
2007-10-18 17:58                   ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-18 15:42 ` Vincent Aravantinos
     [not found] <47161E3B.3060704@tsc.uc3m.es>
2007-10-17 15:01 ` Dario Teixeira
2007-10-17 20:20   ` Alain Frisch

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