From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B02BC82 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:43 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPcSZkfAXQImh2dsb2JhbACQBQEBAQgKKZku X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,176,1196636400"; d="scan'208";a="20408936" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 15:13:43 +0100 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBHEDgsu028752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:42 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADMTZkfBL1AZh2dsb2JhbACQBQEBAQgKKZkv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,176,1196636400"; d="scan'208";a="5735679" Received: from gw.exalead.com (HELO exalead.com) ([193.47.80.25]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 15:13:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.204.148] (madpc064.exalead.com [192.168.204.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by exalead.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lBHEDgXn003077; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: <47668416.7000502@exalead.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:42 +0100 From: Berke Durak User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvain Le Gall Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Installing libraries ? References: <1197848427.6258.42.camel@Blefuscu> <1197892563-sup-1822@ausone.inria.fr> <001101c840ac$d16ccc20$6402a8c0@countertenor> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 47668416.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; berke:01 durak:01 berke:01 durak:01 ocamlfind:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 ocamlfind:01 compilation:01 caml-list:01 span:97 seems:03 languages:03 programming:03 implicit:03 Sylvain Le Gall a écrit : > OCamlfind is the best tool around for managing libraries in ocaml. > OCaml distributions, like debian or godi, already provide a support for > it. Most of the time missing META file are even provided by these > distributions. Allowing an easy use of it could be a very good point for > all (and the continuation of an implicit policy). > > I know there is already a piece of ocamlbuild plugin to integrate > ocamlfind, the BEST way to continue this work is to allow to fully > integrate ocamlfind and ocamlbuild through this work. Hello, I agree. I think Ocamlfind and Godi are nice pieces of work, and it certainly would be better if we could integrate existing systems. We all love Ocaml, but there seems to be an important problem with it. Unlike most programming languages of similar magnitude, Ocaml doesn't have a developer conference where its users could meet face-to-face and discuss these kind of things... (or did I miss something?) If not, we should organize one. Ocaml users span half a dozen continents but we could start with a small gathering in Paris. I'd suggest late January. We could then discuss distribution, building, packaging and other issues; and publish guidelines for a "request for implementation" -- things we would like to see in an integrated compilation and package manager. People would then implement different solutions and we could gather two months later to evaluate the proposals. Does anyone have a proposal for a gathering place? -- Berke DURAK