From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6608BC6C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:15:55 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAIbrn0fBL1AZh2dsb2JhbACQJwEBAQgKKZ9B X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,277,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="21973437" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2008 12:15:56 +0100 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m0UBFr6J012998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:15:54 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAIbrn0fBL1AZh2dsb2JhbACQJwEBAQgKKZ9B X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,277,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="21973431" Received: from gw.exalead.com (HELO exalead.com) ([193.47.80.25]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2008 12:15:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.204.148] (madpc064.exalead.com [192.168.204.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by exalead.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m0UBFbWh015225; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:15:37 +0100 Message-ID: <47A05C59.2070900@exalead.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:15:37 +0100 From: Berke Durak User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvain Le Gall , Caml-list List Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: [OSR] Ports-like package management system References: <479F0664.2070706@exalead.com> <47A045C1.7030603@exalead.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 47A05C6A.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; berke:01 durak:01 berke:01 durak:01 bug:01 recompile:01 ocaml:01 unpack:01 wrote:01 caml-list:01 minor:01 tar:01 diff:02 diff:02 authors:03 Sylvain Le Gall a écrit : > On 30-01-2008, Berke Durak wrote: >> When you develop a program P you will have use programs P_{i1}, P_{i2}, >> ... and thus have checkouts of repositories S_{i1}, S_{i2}, and so on. >> If you find a bug in P_{i1} you can directly edit the checked out >> version, recompile everything automatically by launching ocaml in P's >> directory and thus debug P_{i1}. You can then locally commit your >> changes to P_{i1} and then easily push the patch or send the diff to the >> upstream author. >> > > Send a patch to author of P_{i1}. This is the easiest way. > > > diff -Nurd P_{i1} P_{i1}.new > So you need to get a separate copy of P_{i1}, unpack it, and run a diff by hand... And what will happen during the process of developing the patch? You will be working on your patch without version control system. Which is very uncomfortable, especially as you will be working on unfamiliar code - you will make mistakes, erase or modify important stuff, won't be able to easily rollback, branch or review your changes. You will have to play around with tar, diff, patch and merge by hand, make mistakes and create a mess. Any VCS can handle all these tasks easily. Unless your correction is very minor, you will have to either (a) import the project into your own favorite VCS, losing history and create a short-lived repository or be forced to track all future changes by hand; or (b) checkout the sources using the VCS the authors use - but then we're back at case one: you will have to potentially have all the version control systems used by all the software components you may want to contribute to, and also learn how to use them all. >> - A build system integrated with the package management system, >> > > Yes, if you do not force every software developers to use it and still > provide a way to integrate their software into your package management > system. We are not forcing anyone to work using the selected VCS. We are just asking them to regularly publish their software to the VCS. If they directly work using the selected VCS, publishing commits will be easier for them - but they can still work on a day-to-day basis using their own VCS. -- Berke DURAK