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From: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Cc: dra-news@metastack.com, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Private types
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:52:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490BB657.5050301@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081031.090842.254669920.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>

Jacques Garrigue wrote:

> Your intuition is correct that it would theoretically be possible to
> try subtyping in place of unification in some cases. The trouble is
> that thoses cases are not easy to specify (so that it would be hard
> for the programmer to known when he can remove a coercion), 

Does the compiler really get any information from an explicit cast that
it can't figure out already?  I can't come up with any example.

> and that
> subtyping is potentially very costly (structural subtyping is much
> harder to check than the nominal subtyping you have in Java.)

As the compiler needs to check that explicit casts are valid, I don't
see any performance difference between explicit and implicit subtype casts.

> So the current approach is to completely separate subtyping and type
> inference, and require coercions everywhere subtyping is needed.
> 
Would it be particularly difficult to, in the cases where type [x] is
found but type [y] is expected, to try a (foo : x :> y) cast?

> You can also compare that to the situation between int and float.
> For most uses, int can be viewed as a subtype of float. However ocaml
> separates the two, and requires coercion functions whenever you want
> to use an int as a float.
> 
Code isn't produced by a :> cast.  As the internal representation of int
and float differs, a coercion function isn't required.  The internal
representation of [private int] and [int] is the same, not to mention
one is exactly the [private] of the other.

> Cheers,
> 
> Jacques Garrigue

Merci,
E.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-01  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-30 20:18 David Allsopp
2008-10-30 20:33 ` [Caml-list] " Daniel Bünzli
2008-10-30 21:54   ` David Allsopp
2008-10-31  0:08     ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-10-31 14:05       ` Dario Teixeira
2008-11-01  9:52         ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-11-01  1:52       ` Edgar Friendly [this message]
2008-11-01  8:19         ` David Allsopp
2008-11-01 19:31           ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 20:18             ` David Allsopp
2008-11-02 14:53               ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 10:00         ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-11-01 19:41           ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 13:01         ` Rémi Vanicat
2008-11-01 13:30           ` [Caml-list] " Edgar Friendly
2008-10-30 21:47 ` [Caml-list] " Jérémie Dimino
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-01 19:51 [Caml-list] Reading a large text file Alain.Frisch
2004-05-01 20:40 ` skaller
2004-05-01 21:11   ` [Caml-list] Private types skaller

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