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From: Martin Jambon <martin.jambon@ens-lyon.org>
To: Kuba Ober <ober.14@osu.edu>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] questions
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:44:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D22C32.2050604@ens-lyon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3091E0E6-226B-4F4A-A78C-E523C250B8D5@osu.edu>

Kuba Ober wrote:
> There must be some reason why the manual and other materials on the
> official site are of such poor quality. I've thought a bit about it, and
> the only reason I see is that the authors do not have a feel for what it
> takes to learn/understand/use that language. They obviously know it all
> through, but that's still far removed from being able to explain it to
> someone else. I don't know, of course, how it is that one understands
> something "well" yet is not able to explain it to somebody else. To me,
> that's very fragile knowledge. I always thought that deep understanding
> implies an ability to extract what's important, and to lead the other
> person from some "basics" (whatever they may be) to the conclusion.

I can see one reason: like many other French OCaml programmers, I learned
OCaml at school (it was in 1998). French teachers don't rely heavily on a
book. There is however one book that covers the essentials, "Le Langage Caml"
by Weis and Leroy, which despite using the Caml Light dialect is the most
enlightening programming book I've ever got to read. For the rest, there is
the reference manual of OCaml and plenty of source code all around the web.

I think that's why there is not much more incentive to write a complete
"replace-the-teacher" text book on OCaml written by the core OCaml developers,
who are mostly a French team. Besides, it's a lot of work and doesn't make money.

Of course there are now a few great books and tutorials on OCaml in English,
none of them having an official status.


Martin

-- 
http://mjambon.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-31 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 19:42 questions John Prince
2009-03-24 20:42 ` [Caml-list] questions Stéphane Glondu
2009-03-24 20:44 ` Jon Harrop
2009-03-25  0:17 ` Richard Jones
2009-03-25  1:11   ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-03-25  0:24 ` questions Michael Ekstrand
2009-03-25  5:45 ` [Caml-list] questions David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-03-25 17:16   ` John Prince
2009-03-27 22:14 ` xah lee
2009-03-31 13:37   ` Kuba Ober
2009-03-31 14:44     ` Martin Jambon [this message]
2009-04-01 13:49       ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2009-04-01 19:13       ` David MENTRE
2009-04-01 19:27         ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-01 20:23           ` Re : " Matthieu Wipliez
2009-04-02  7:20             ` David MENTRE
2009-04-02  8:06               ` LLC book [was: Questions] Xavier Leroy
2009-04-02  8:23                 ` [Caml-list] " Alp Mestan
2009-04-04 17:17             ` Re : [Caml-list] questions Kuba Ober
2009-03-31 16:31     ` Xavier Leroy
2009-04-01  9:14       ` FALCON Gilles RD-RESA-LAN
2009-04-01 12:59         ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y)
2009-04-01 16:45           ` Kuba Ober
2009-04-01 13:13         ` Xavier Leroy
2009-04-01 13:42           ` Till Varoquaux
2009-04-01 16:29         ` Kuba Ober
2009-04-01 15:17       ` xahlee
2009-04-02 10:35       ` Florian Hars
2009-03-31 21:18     ` Jon Harrop
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-06 18:51 questions Igor Ozerov
2006-11-06 23:18 ` [Caml-list] questions Richard Jones
2006-11-07  8:55   ` Richard Jones

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