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From: Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net>
To: Lukasz Stafiniak <lukstafi@gmail.com>
Cc: Caml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml and Boehm
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:03:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E0B15C.6080208@starynkevitch.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a708d20904110711i199ef805h611a04d823c8fb51@mail.gmail.com>

Lukasz Stafiniak wrote:
>>     
> It is a large application. They debate whether to use Boehm or smart
> pointers. They already have embedded Scheme (Guile) and are about to
> embed Python. (Guile is said to be Boehm-compatible, in some sense,
> from the next version.) It is possible that Boehm is a no-way for
> them, I asked here to investigate this.
>   

My advice is always to avoid mixing several garbage collection 
techniques or implementations inside the same program.

I am not sure "they" are right in embedding both Guile & Python inside 
the same program. I would really avoid doing that, especially if the 
application is long-running or has to be reliable.

Did you consider having a separate Ocaml program (& perhaps also a 
separate Python program) which communicates with that application using 
some communication channel (be it a pipe, a socket, IPC or Posix shared 
memory, ...) which at least provides a separation between various GCs 
and address spaces...


 From what you are suggesting, "your" application seems to be a big 
spaghetti system, very brittle and hard to maintain. I do know that 
these are very common, but I won't like to be at your place... because 
you describe a realistic, but quite nasty, situation (probably more a 
management issue than a technical one).

But beware of  one stuff: GC bugs are hard to find! A single bug could 
mean weeks of efforts!

Regards.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-11 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-10 20:13 Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11  9:46 ` [Caml-list] " Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2009-04-11 10:42   ` Jon Harrop
     [not found]   ` <4a708d20904110511o7d390807r3d29400cf96d6f35@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <49E09C2D.4080906@starynkevitch.net>
2009-04-11 14:11       ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11 14:27         ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 14:40           ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11 20:40             ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 15:03         ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH [this message]
2009-04-11 20:41           ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-13  9:42           ` Christoph Bauer
2009-04-13 13:15             ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-14  5:25               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12  3:34   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12 12:09     ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-13 17:36 ` Xavier Leroy
2009-04-11 19:17 Ed Keith
2009-04-11 20:36 ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-12  3:25   ` Goswin von Brederlow

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