From: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>
To: Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>
Cc: Philip <feucht@uni-koblenz.de>, Keyan <ml@pulsschlag.net>,
caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] general question, was Re: OCaml is broken
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:46:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2F9855.9050308@mcmaster.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <785000.40916.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I agree with most of what Dario Teixeira wrote, except for one small
quibble:
Dario Teixeira wrote:
> Last but not least, Ocaml plays a central role in multiple INRIA
> projects, which means its creators have all the reason to continue
> maintaining it and improving it for the foreseeable future (and there's
> some interesting goodies in the upcoming 3.12 release, for example).
>
Actually, this gives these projects an incentive to insure that Ocaml
survives, which gives an incentive for some 'maintenance engineers' to
be kept on-staff to insure that Ocaml does not bit-rot. This gives only
quite partial incentive to a team of researchers (the creators of Ocaml)
to do maintenance (as that is usually not research, thus not the kind of
work of interest to researchers). And entropy is a real problem --
Ocaml is now quite mature, which means that radical changes are well
nigh impossible; this is a serious disincentive for researchers. End of
quibble.
Personally, I would really really want to see a 4.00 release which
really warrants that name. The 3.XX line can be maintained for a few
more years while people switch, in the same way gcc did this.
In any case, I have nevertheless voted with my time and effort: I have 1
large project being implemented in Ocaml, 3 medium ones in metaocaml,
although I must admit that I have some 'research' code in Haskell (and
in Maple, but that's another story).
Jacques
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2009-12-19 19:38 Jeff Shaw
2009-12-20 4:43 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-20 12:21 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-20 13:22 ` Martin Jambon
2009-12-20 13:47 ` Yaron Minsky
2009-12-20 16:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21 22:50 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-22 12:04 ` Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-22 12:27 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-22 13:27 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-23 11:25 ` Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-29 12:07 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Richard Jones
2009-12-20 14:27 ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-20 21:14 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 1:08 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21 4:30 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 3:58 ` Yaron Minsky
2009-12-21 5:32 ` Markus Mottl
2009-12-21 13:29 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-26 17:08 ` orbitz
2009-12-20 19:38 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 12:26 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-21 14:19 ` general question, was " Keyan
2009-12-21 14:40 ` [Caml-list] " rixed
2009-12-21 14:42 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21 15:25 ` Eray Ozkural
2009-12-21 14:50 ` Philip
2009-12-21 15:01 ` Keyan
2009-12-21 15:13 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-12-21 15:27 ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-21 15:46 ` Jacques Carette [this message]
2009-12-21 18:50 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 18:48 ` Jon Harrop
2010-01-03 10:49 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-01-03 20:06 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 13:07 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [Caml-list] " Damien Doligez
2009-12-21 13:31 ` multicore wish [Was: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken] Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-21 14:19 ` multicore wish Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-21 16:15 ` [Caml-list] " Fischbacher T.
2009-12-21 17:42 ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-21 18:43 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 19:53 ` multicore wish [Was: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken] Jon Harrop
2009-12-22 13:09 ` multicore wish Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-22 19:12 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-22 18:02 ` Edgar Friendly
2009-12-22 19:20 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-24 12:58 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-24 16:51 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-24 13:19 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-24 17:06 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-27 12:45 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-27 16:37 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-28 12:28 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-28 15:07 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2009-12-28 18:05 ` Xavier Leroy
2009-12-29 16:44 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-20 11:56 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken Erik Rigtorp
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