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From: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>
To: Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>
Cc: Philip <feucht@uni-koblenz.de>, Keyan <ml@pulsschlag.net>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] general question, was Re: OCaml is broken
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:46:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2F9855.9050308@mcmaster.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <785000.40916.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I agree with most of what Dario Teixeira wrote, except for one small 
quibble:

Dario Teixeira wrote:
> Last but not least, Ocaml plays a central role in multiple INRIA
> projects, which means its creators have all the reason to continue
> maintaining it and improving it for the foreseeable future (and there's
> some interesting goodies in the upcoming 3.12 release, for example).
>   
Actually, this gives these projects an incentive to insure that Ocaml 
survives, which gives an incentive for some 'maintenance engineers' to 
be kept on-staff to insure that Ocaml does not bit-rot.  This gives only 
quite partial incentive to a team of researchers (the creators of Ocaml) 
to do maintenance (as that is usually not research, thus not the kind of 
work of interest to researchers).  And entropy is a real problem -- 
Ocaml is now quite mature, which means that radical changes are well 
nigh impossible; this is a serious disincentive for researchers.  End of 
quibble.

Personally, I would really really want to see a 4.00 release which 
really warrants that name.  The 3.XX line can be maintained for a few 
more years while people switch, in the same way gcc did this. 

In any case, I have nevertheless voted with my time and effort: I have 1 
large project being implemented in Ocaml, 3 medium ones in metaocaml, 
although I must admit that I have some 'research' code in Haskell (and 
in Maple, but that's another story).

Jacques


  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-21 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-19 19:38 Jeff Shaw
2009-12-20  4:43 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-20 12:21   ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-20 13:22     ` Martin Jambon
2009-12-20 13:47     ` Yaron Minsky
2009-12-20 16:01       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21 22:50       ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-22 12:04         ` Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-22 12:27           ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-22 13:27           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-23 11:25             ` Erik Rigtorp
2009-12-29 12:07         ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Richard Jones
2009-12-20 14:27     ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-20 21:14       ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21  1:08         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21  4:30           ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21  3:58             ` Yaron Minsky
2009-12-21  5:32             ` Markus Mottl
2009-12-21 13:29               ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-26 17:08           ` orbitz
2009-12-20 19:38     ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 12:26       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-21 14:19         ` general question, was " Keyan
2009-12-21 14:40           ` [Caml-list] " rixed
2009-12-21 14:42           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-21 15:25             ` Eray Ozkural
2009-12-21 14:50           ` Philip
2009-12-21 15:01             ` Keyan
2009-12-21 15:13               ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-12-21 15:27               ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-21 15:46                 ` Jacques Carette [this message]
2009-12-21 18:50             ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 18:48           ` Jon Harrop
2010-01-03 10:49           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-01-03 20:06             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 13:07     ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] Re: [Caml-list] " Damien Doligez
2009-12-21 13:31   ` multicore wish [Was: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken] Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-21 14:19     ` multicore wish Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2009-12-21 16:15       ` [Caml-list] " Fischbacher T.
2009-12-21 17:42       ` Dario Teixeira
2009-12-21 18:43       ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-21 19:53     ` multicore wish [Was: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken] Jon Harrop
2009-12-22 13:09       ` multicore wish Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-22 19:12         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-12-22 18:02           ` Edgar Friendly
2009-12-22 19:20             ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-24 12:58               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-24 16:51                 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-24 13:19           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-24 17:06             ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-27 12:45               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-12-27 16:37                 ` Jon Harrop
2009-12-28 12:28                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-28 15:07                   ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2009-12-28 18:05                   ` Xavier Leroy
2009-12-29 16:44                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-12-20 11:56 ` [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.1/8.0] [Caml-list] Re: OCaml is broken Erik Rigtorp

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