Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Dawid Toton]

I have installed part of this OCaml port
http://home.arcor.de/chr_bauer/ocaml-aix.html
on a computer running on AIX. It seems that everything built correctly 
except ocamlopt. So I have ocamlrun and standard library and this should 
be enough for bytecode to run.

I have to build the bytecode on a different machine (because it's 
difficult to do on AIX). I believe this shouldn't induce any problems.

Trivial bytecode executes correctly regardless where it is created.

I set LIBPATH to point to ocaml/stublibs and try running some bytecode 
uning Unix module. This results in:
Fatal error: unknown C primitive `unix_getsockopt_bool'

If I compile simple "let _ = Unix.sleep 1" on the target machine, I get 
bytecode that causes ocamlrun to crash with:
Illegal instruction (core dumped)

Does anybody have an idea for workaround? Some understanding what's 
going on?

I'm using AIX 5.3

Dawid

RE: [Caml-list] Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Christoph Bauer]

unfortunatly I haven't a solution for the bytecode stuff. I only use
ocaml with native compiled code. This works very well.

Christoph Bauer

> From: caml-list-bounces@yquem.inria.fr 
> [mailto:caml-list-bounces@yquem.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dawid Toton
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:32 PM
> To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
> Subject: [Caml-list] Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error
> 
> I have installed part of this OCaml port 
> http://home.arcor.de/chr_bauer/ocaml-aix.html
> on a computer running on AIX. It seems that everything built 
> correctly except ocamlopt. So I have ocamlrun and standard 
> library and this should be enough for bytecode to run.
> 
> I have to build the bytecode on a different machine (because 
> it's difficult to do on AIX). I believe this shouldn't induce 
> any problems.
> 
> Trivial bytecode executes correctly regardless where it is created.
> 
> I set LIBPATH to point to ocaml/stublibs and try running some 
> bytecode uning Unix module. This results in:
> Fatal error: unknown C primitive `unix_getsockopt_bool'
> 
> If I compile simple "let _ = Unix.sleep 1" on the target 
> machine, I get bytecode that causes ocamlrun to crash with:
> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
> 
> Does anybody have an idea for workaround? Some understanding 
> what's going on?
> 
> I'm using AIX 5.3
> 
> Dawid
> 
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Re: Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Sylvain Le Gall]

On 20-01-2010, Christoph Bauer <christoph.bauer@lmsintl.com> wrote:
> unfortunatly I haven't a solution for the bytecode stuff. I only use
> ocaml with native compiled code. This works very well.
>

I confirm that ocamlopt/AIX works well (thanks to Christoph). 

The best solution is maybe to understand why ocamlopt cannot be built ?

Regards
Sylvain Le Gall

> Christoph Bauer
>
>> From: caml-list-bounces@yquem.inria.fr 
>> [mailto:caml-list-bounces@yquem.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dawid Toton
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:32 PM
>> To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
>> Subject: [Caml-list] Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error
>> 
>> I have installed part of this OCaml port 
>> http://home.arcor.de/chr_bauer/ocaml-aix.html
>> on a computer running on AIX. It seems that everything built 
>> correctly except ocamlopt. So I have ocamlrun and standard 
>> library and this should be enough for bytecode to run.
>> 
>> I have to build the bytecode on a different machine (because 
>> it's difficult to do on AIX). I believe this shouldn't induce 
>> any problems.
>> 
>> Trivial bytecode executes correctly regardless where it is created.
>> 
>> I set LIBPATH to point to ocaml/stublibs and try running some 
>> bytecode uning Unix module. This results in:
>> Fatal error: unknown C primitive `unix_getsockopt_bool'
>> 
>> If I compile simple "let _ = Unix.sleep 1" on the target 
>> machine, I get bytecode that causes ocamlrun to crash with:
>> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
>> 
>> Does anybody have an idea for workaround? Some understanding 
>> what's going on?
>> 
>> I'm using AIX 5.3
>> 
>> Dawid
>> 
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Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall

RE: [Caml-list] Re: Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Christoph Bauer]

> I confirm that ocamlopt/AIX works well (thanks to Christoph). 
> 
> The best solution is maybe to understand why ocamlopt cannot 
> be built ?

It's a long time since I worked on that. 

I suspected that ld, didn't export all needed symbols. 
Playing with linker flags didn't help.

With an older version (3.09.3) I also cannot load unix.cma.
I get this error message:

  Cannot load required shared library dllunix.
  Reason: dynamic loading not supported on this platform.

So in config/s.h I defined for 3.11.0

#define SUPPORT_DYNAMIC_LINKING

and tried to fix the compiler/linker flags in config/Makefile.
The linker is called with -bexpall, but as you can see, it doesn't solve the
case.

Regards,
Christoph Bauer

Ceterum censeo Ocaml 3.11.2 Issue #4844, #4034 et #4644 includam esse

Re: [Caml-list] Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Dawid Toton]

> unfortunatly I haven't a solution for the bytecode stuff. I only use
> ocaml with native compiled code. This works very well.
>   
Native code would also be sufficient (to save me from translating lot of 
code to C).

The problem is that the assembler available on AIX doesn't unserstand 
power-aix.S:

as  -o power-aix.o power-aix.S
Assembler:
power-aix.S: line 103: 1252-023 The symbol .caml_garbage_collection is 
not defined.
power-aix.S: line 103: 1252-087 The target of the branch instruction
        must be a relocatable or external expression.
power-aix.S: line 457: 1252-023 The symbol caml_young_limit is not defined.
power-aix.S: line 457: 1252-040 The specified expression is not valid.
        Make sure that all symbols are defined.
        Check the rules on symbols used in an arithmetic expression
        concerning relocation.
...... (many similar messages)

How have you obtained running ocamlopt?

Dawid

RE: [Caml-list] Bytecode run on AIX - "unknown C primitive" error

[Christoph Bauer]

> The problem is that the assembler available on AIX doesn't unserstand
> power-aix.S:
> 
> as  -o power-aix.o power-aix.S
> Assembler:
> power-aix.S: line 103: 1252-023 The symbol 
> .caml_garbage_collection is not defined.
> power-aix.S: line 103: 1252-087 The target of the branch instruction
>         must be a relocatable or external expression.
> power-aix.S: line 457: 1252-023 The symbol caml_young_limit 
> is not defined.
> power-aix.S: line 457: 1252-040 The specified expression is not valid.
>         Make sure that all symbols are defined.
>         Check the rules on symbols used in an arithmetic expression
>         concerning relocation.
> ...... (many similar messages)

Please try:

$ cd asmrun
$ cpp -DSYS_aix power-aix.S > power-aix.s
$ as -u  power-aix.s
$ cd ..
$ make opt

Christoph Bauer

Re: [Caml-list] OCaml on AIX

[Dawid Toton]

Christoph Bauer pisze:
> Please try:
>
> $ cd asmrun
> $ cpp -DSYS_aix power-aix.S > power-aix.s
> $ as -u  power-aix.s
> $ cd ..
> $ make opt
>
> Christoph Bauer
>
>   
Apparently I can go directly without preprocessor (and cpp I have on the 
AIX machine doesn't like asm syntax):

$ cp power-aix.S power-aix.s
$ as -u -o power-aix.o power-aix.s
$ cd ..
$ gmake opt

So I get working native code.
The remaining problem is that camlp4 crashes on some Unix call when 
preprocessing. I solved it by preprocessing all the code on another machine.

Thank you for your help.

Dawid

RE: [Caml-list] OCaml on AIX

[Christoph Bauer]

 
Dawid wrote:

> So I get working native code.
> The remaining problem is that camlp4 crashes on some Unix call when preprocessing. I solved it by preprocessing all > the code on another machine.

I looked again into that problem. ocamlrun opens a DLL (dllunix.so)
and this dll trys to use symbols from ocamlrun (caml_alloc_string).
Unfortunatly this doesn't work.

The easiest solution is, to link ocamlrun agains libcamlrun_shared.so and to
set an internal libpath.

Download it from here:
http://home.arcor.de/chr_bauer/ocaml-aix.html

Christoph Bauer

[Caml-list] Ocaml on AIX

[Thomas Fischbacher]

Dear OCaml hackers,

we are about to do an exact symbolic calculation of enormous size (it 
could even be the largest one performed by mankind so far, I don't know) 
which comes from superstring theory. We do this in Ocaml, using as much 
of the algebraic structure as possible, and hence implemented quite many 
algorithmic tricks in the code which give us a performance boost of a 
factor of about 300 over the already highly optimized but more generic 
"symbol cruncher" FORM term manipulation program.

We might have an opportunity to use the supercomputer of a german plasma 
physics research institution for this, but this particular machine runs 
AIX on PowerPCs, _probably_ with somewhat out-dated software on it, so I
suppose I would have quite a hard time installing an ocaml compiler on it.

Hence, before I write an application for computing resources on that 
machine, I'd like to ask if there is anyone out there who could compile 
my code for AIX (needs ocaml 2.07.2a and libnums-ocaml 3.07)?

-- 
regards,               tf@cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de              (o_
 Thomas Fischbacher -  http://www.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~tf  //\
(lambda (n) ((lambda (p q r) (p p q r)) (lambda (g x y)           V_/_
(if (= x 0) y (g g (- x 1) (* x y)))) n 1))                  (Debian GNU)

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Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml on AIX

[John Goerzen]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:40:15PM +0200, Thomas Fischbacher wrote:
> Hence, before I write an application for computing resources on that 
> machine, I'd like to ask if there is anyone out there who could compile 
> my code for AIX (needs ocaml 2.07.2a and libnums-ocaml 3.07)?

You should be aware that ocamlopt does not presently work on AIX.  So
the best you could do would be bytecode (though if compiled with
-custom, you could still achieve a standalone binary).

Actually, it may be possible to make ocamlopt work on AIX 4.x, but we
have 5.1 over here.

-- John

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Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml on AIX

[Thomas Fischbacher]

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, John Goerzen wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:40:15PM +0200, Thomas Fischbacher wrote:
> > Hence, before I write an application for computing resources on that 
> > machine, I'd like to ask if there is anyone out there who could compile 
> > my code for AIX (needs ocaml 2.07.2a and libnums-ocaml 3.07)?
> 
> You should be aware that ocamlopt does not presently work on AIX.  So
> the best you could do would be bytecode (though if compiled with
> -custom, you could still achieve a standalone binary).

Oh dear, that's bad news.

> Actually, it may be possible to make ocamlopt work on AIX 4.x, but we
> have 5.1 over here.

What are the problems with AIX 5.*?

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Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml on AIX

[John Goerzen]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 07:14:07PM +0200, Thomas Fischbacher wrote:
> > You should be aware that ocamlopt does not presently work on AIX.  So
> > the best you could do would be bytecode (though if compiled with
> > -custom, you could still achieve a standalone binary).
> 
> Oh dear, that's bad news.
> 
> > Actually, it may be possible to make ocamlopt work on AIX 4.x, but we
> > have 5.1 over here.
> 
> What are the problems with AIX 5.*?

I don't recall exactly, but ocamlopt would refuse to build due to signal
handling problems for me.  The Inria folks have just (within the past
few days) announced that they will deprecate AIX support in ocamlopt.
You may want to search the recent archives of this list for more info.

-- John

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