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@ 2010-05-17 14:59 Thomas Braibant
  2010-05-17 15:14 ` [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC] Rabih CHAAR
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Braibant @ 2010-05-17 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: caml-list

Hi list,

Following on the thread "Subtyping structurally-equivalent records, or
something like it?", I made some experimentations with phantom types.
Unfortunately, I turns out that I do not understand the results I got.

Could someone on the list explain why the first piece of code is well
typed, while the second one is not ?


type p1
type p2

type 'a t = float
let x : p1 t = 0.0
let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
let _ = id x (* type checks with type p2 t*)

type 'a t = {l: float}
let x : p1 t = {l = 0.0}
let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
let _ = id x (* ill typed *)

Any thoughts ?

thomas



2010/5/1 Stéphane Lescuyer <stephane.lescuyer@inria.fr>:
> Hi Anthony,
> I think that maybe using phantom types could do the trick : consider
> defining empty types for all the different "kinds" of similar
> constructs that you have, and then define the kinematic record with a
> phantom parameter type.
>
> type position
> type acceleration
> type force
>
> type 'a kinematic = {lin : Vec.t; ang: Vec.t}
>
> By adding some extra typing annotations, you can then constraint your
> functions to accept (or produce) only a given kind of construct, say
> for example a position kinematic :
>
> let pos_0 : position kinematic = {lin = Vec.origin; ang = Vec.origin }
>
> let double_force (v : force kinematic) : force kinematic = {lin =
> Vec.mult 2. v.lin; ang = v.ang }
>
> double_force pos_0 -> does not type check
>
> You can write generic functions as add, norm, products, etc : they are
> just polymorphic with respect to the phantom type parameter. By the
> way you ensure that you are not multiplying apples and carrots :
> let plus (v : 'a kinematic) (v' : 'a kinematic) : 'a kinematic = ...
>
> Of course, the overhead is that you have to explicitely write some
> type annotations, especially for constructors, but the runtime
> overhead is exactly 0. And also, one limitation is that you can't use
> different projection names for the different cosntructs, since it is
> really always the same record type that you are using.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Stéphane L.
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Anthony Tavener
> <anthony.tavener@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have this:
>>
>>   type kinematic = { lin: Vec.t; ang: Vec.t }
>>
>> Which I've been using to represent a medley of physical attributes (force,
>> momentum, velocity, etc.).
>>
>> As the physics code becomes increasingly substantial I'm running into
>> possible human-error, like passing a momentum where a force is expected, or
>> a mass instead of inverse-mass (mass is also a record though different, but
>> inv-mass has the same structure as mass). So I'd like to make distinct
>> types, such as:
>>
>>   type position = { r: Vec.t; theta: Vec.t }
>>   type acceleration = { a: Vec.t; alpha: Vec.t }
>>   type force = { f: Vec.t; tau: Vec.t }
>>
>> They are structurally equivalent, and ideally I'd like to be able to treat
>> these as 'kinematic' too, since that is how I would express the arithmetic
>> and common functions on these types (add, mul, etc).
>>
>>
>> I'm sure I've seen posts on this before but I can't find them now (though
>> what I remember are questions about having distinct 'float' types, such as
>> for degrees vs radians, rather than records).
>>
>> I know OCaml doesn't have subtypes for records, which is effectively what
>> I'm looking for. Though this case is a bit more specialized that that... all
>> the subtypes and base type are structurally equivalent. Code for one of
>> these types would technically work on any... but is there a way to inform
>> the type system of my intentions?
>>
>>
>> I hope someone has a better option than those I've considered, or that I
>> have a grave misunderstanding somewhere and one of these options is actually
>> good:
>>
>> 1. Objects. Subtyping makes these a natural fit, but in this case I don't
>> need anything else which objects provide, and a certainly don't need the
>> poor performance or method-calling mixed in with my computational code
>> (aesthetically... yucky, to me). Again, each type is structurally
>> equivalent. Just some functions want certain types.
>>
>> 2. Using distinct records for each type, but no 'kinematic' base type, so
>> all common operations are duplicated for each new type. No performance hit.
>> But the redundant code is horrible -- makes extensions a pain, and a
>> potential bug-source.
>>
>> 2b. Same as above, but putting the common code in a functor which we apply
>> on all the different types. I think this will add some overhead, since the
>> signature of the types (below) would demand accessor functions for the
>> record fields, in order to uniformly get the fields from the different types
>> (again, even though they are structurally equivalent) -- these calls
>> probably wouldn't get optimized out. But maybe there is a better way to do
>> this?
>>
>>   module type KINEMATIC = sig
>>     type t
>>     val lin : t -> Vec.t
>>     val ang : t -> Vec.t
>>   end
>>
>> 3. Making all the other types different aliases of 'kinematic'; then using
>> explicit type declarations in function parameters and coercion to
>> 'kinematic' when needed. This makes some ugly code, and the added-typesafety
>> is almost illusory. This is kind-of like 'typesafe' C code doing typecasting
>> gymnastics.
>>
>> 4. Adapter functions: 'kinematic_of_force: force -> kinematic', etc. as a
>> way to use the common set of 'kinematic' functions. This is clunky and comes
>> with a big performance hit unless these functions became like
>> type-coercions. If there is a way this can be done with zero runtime cost,
>> I'd accept the clunkiness. :)
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>> I've been using OCaml for a few years now, but this is my first post. I feel
>> many of you are familiar online personae through reading archives, blogs,
>> and websites. Thank-you for all the help I've absorbed through those various
>> channels. And thanks to those making the language I favor for most tasks!
>>
>> Briefly introducing myself: I've been a professional video-game developer
>> for 15 years, most recently specializing in AI. I quit my last job almost
>> two years ago to travel and program (95% in OCaml!), and am developing a
>> game now. I've seen indications over the years of other game developers
>> taking the plunge and then parting ways with OCaml, surely back to C++. I
>> see OCaml as viable and certainly more pleasurable, even with avoiding
>> mutation. But within a pressure-cooker environment (working for $$ from
>> someone else) people fall back on what they are most familiar with... also
>> you can't go too rogue while still being part of a team. :)
>>
>> -Anthony Tavener
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management:
>> http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list
>> Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
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>> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> I'm the kind of guy that until it happens, I won't worry about it. -
> R.H. RoY05, MVP06
>
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* Re: [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC]
  2010-05-17 14:59 Phantom types Thomas Braibant
@ 2010-05-17 15:14 ` Rabih CHAAR
  2010-05-17 15:19   ` Philippe Veber
  2010-05-17 16:00 ` Phantom types Dawid Toton
  2010-05-17 16:37 ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Rabih CHAAR @ 2010-05-17 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Braibant; +Cc: caml-list, caml-list-bounces

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if you define the intermediate type
type s= {l:float}
followed by
type 'a t = s
everything goes well

I am unable to give you an explanation about this (the need of the 
intermediay type s). I hope someone can shed some light on this.

Sincerely




Thomas Braibant <thomas.braibant@gmail.com> 
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17/05/10 04:59 PM


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Hi list,

Following on the thread "Subtyping structurally-equivalent records, or
something like it?", I made some experimentations with phantom types.
Unfortunately, I turns out that I do not understand the results I got.

Could someone on the list explain why the first piece of code is well
typed, while the second one is not ?


type p1
type p2

type 'a t = float
let x : p1 t = 0.0
let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
let _ = id x (* type checks with type p2 t*)

type 'a t = {l: float}
let x : p1 t = {l = 0.0}
let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
let _ = id x (* ill typed *)

Any thoughts ?

thomas



2010/5/1 Stéphane Lescuyer <stephane.lescuyer@inria.fr>:
> Hi Anthony,
> I think that maybe using phantom types could do the trick : consider
> defining empty types for all the different "kinds" of similar
> constructs that you have, and then define the kinematic record with a
> phantom parameter type.
>
> type position
> type acceleration
> type force
>
> type 'a kinematic = {lin : Vec.t; ang: Vec.t}
>
> By adding some extra typing annotations, you can then constraint your
> functions to accept (or produce) only a given kind of construct, say
> for example a position kinematic :
>
> let pos_0 : position kinematic = {lin = Vec.origin; ang = Vec.origin }
>
> let double_force (v : force kinematic) : force kinematic = {lin =
> Vec.mult 2. v.lin; ang = v.ang }
>
> double_force pos_0 -> does not type check
>
> You can write generic functions as add, norm, products, etc : they are
> just polymorphic with respect to the phantom type parameter. By the
> way you ensure that you are not multiplying apples and carrots :
> let plus (v : 'a kinematic) (v' : 'a kinematic) : 'a kinematic = ...
>
> Of course, the overhead is that you have to explicitely write some
> type annotations, especially for constructors, but the runtime
> overhead is exactly 0. And also, one limitation is that you can't use
> different projection names for the different cosntructs, since it is
> really always the same record type that you are using.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Stéphane L.
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Anthony Tavener
> <anthony.tavener@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have this:
>>
>>   type kinematic = { lin: Vec.t; ang: Vec.t }
>>
>> Which I've been using to represent a medley of physical attributes 
(force,
>> momentum, velocity, etc.).
>>
>> As the physics code becomes increasingly substantial I'm running into
>> possible human-error, like passing a momentum where a force is 
expected, or
>> a mass instead of inverse-mass (mass is also a record though different, 
but
>> inv-mass has the same structure as mass). So I'd like to make distinct
>> types, such as:
>>
>>   type position = { r: Vec.t; theta: Vec.t }
>>   type acceleration = { a: Vec.t; alpha: Vec.t }
>>   type force = { f: Vec.t; tau: Vec.t }
>>
>> They are structurally equivalent, and ideally I'd like to be able to 
treat
>> these as 'kinematic' too, since that is how I would express the 
arithmetic
>> and common functions on these types (add, mul, etc).
>>
>>
>> I'm sure I've seen posts on this before but I can't find them now 
(though
>> what I remember are questions about having distinct 'float' types, such 
as
>> for degrees vs radians, rather than records).
>>
>> I know OCaml doesn't have subtypes for records, which is effectively 
what
>> I'm looking for. Though this case is a bit more specialized that 
that... all
>> the subtypes and base type are structurally equivalent. Code for one of
>> these types would technically work on any... but is there a way to 
inform
>> the type system of my intentions?
>>
>>
>> I hope someone has a better option than those I've considered, or that 
I
>> have a grave misunderstanding somewhere and one of these options is 
actually
>> good:
>>
>> 1. Objects. Subtyping makes these a natural fit, but in this case I 
don't
>> need anything else which objects provide, and a certainly don't need 
the
>> poor performance or method-calling mixed in with my computational code
>> (aesthetically... yucky, to me). Again, each type is structurally
>> equivalent. Just some functions want certain types.
>>
>> 2. Using distinct records for each type, but no 'kinematic' base type, 
so
>> all common operations are duplicated for each new type. No performance 
hit.
>> But the redundant code is horrible -- makes extensions a pain, and a
>> potential bug-source.
>>
>> 2b. Same as above, but putting the common code in a functor which we 
apply
>> on all the different types. I think this will add some overhead, since 
the
>> signature of the types (below) would demand accessor functions for the
>> record fields, in order to uniformly get the fields from the different 
types
>> (again, even though they are structurally equivalent) -- these calls
>> probably wouldn't get optimized out. But maybe there is a better way to 
do
>> this?
>>
>>   module type KINEMATIC = sig
>>     type t
>>     val lin : t -> Vec.t
>>     val ang : t -> Vec.t
>>   end
>>
>> 3. Making all the other types different aliases of 'kinematic'; then 
using
>> explicit type declarations in function parameters and coercion to
>> 'kinematic' when needed. This makes some ugly code, and the 
added-typesafety
>> is almost illusory. This is kind-of like 'typesafe' C code doing 
typecasting
>> gymnastics.
>>
>> 4. Adapter functions: 'kinematic_of_force: force -> kinematic', etc. as 
a
>> way to use the common set of 'kinematic' functions. This is clunky and 
comes
>> with a big performance hit unless these functions became like
>> type-coercions. If there is a way this can be done with zero runtime 
cost,
>> I'd accept the clunkiness. :)
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>> I've been using OCaml for a few years now, but this is my first post. I 
feel
>> many of you are familiar online personae through reading archives, 
blogs,
>> and websites. Thank-you for all the help I've absorbed through those 
various
>> channels. And thanks to those making the language I favor for most 
tasks!
>>
>> Briefly introducing myself: I've been a professional video-game 
developer
>> for 15 years, most recently specializing in AI. I quit my last job 
almost
>> two years ago to travel and program (95% in OCaml!), and am developing 
a
>> game now. I've seen indications over the years of other game developers
>> taking the plunge and then parting ways with OCaml, surely back to C++. 
I
>> see OCaml as viable and certainly more pleasurable, even with avoiding
>> mutation. But within a pressure-cooker environment (working for $$ from
>> someone else) people fall back on what they are most familiar with... 
also
>> you can't go too rogue while still being part of a team. :)
>>
>> -Anthony Tavener
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management:
>> http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list
>> Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
>> Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners
>> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> I'm the kind of guy that until it happens, I won't worry about it. -
> R.H. RoY05, MVP06
>
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* Re: [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC]
  2010-05-17 15:14 ` [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC] Rabih CHAAR
@ 2010-05-17 15:19   ` Philippe Veber
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Veber @ 2010-05-17 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rabih CHAAR; +Cc: Thomas Braibant, caml-list, caml-list-bounces

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It seems that the expressions typecheck when t is a type abbreviation and
not a type definition. I don't know about the actual typing rules but this
would be reasonable, I guess.

Philippe.

2010/5/17 Rabih CHAAR <rabih.chaar@lyxor.com>

>
> if you define the intermediate type
> type s= {l:float}
> followed by
> type 'a t = s
> everything goes well
>
> I am unable to give you an explanation about this (the need of the
> intermediay type s). I hope someone can shed some light on this.
>
> Sincerely
>
>
>
>  *Thomas Braibant <thomas.braibant@gmail.com>*
> Sent by: caml-list-bounces@yquem.inria.fr
>
> 17/05/10 04:59 PM
>    To
> caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
> cc
>   Subject
> [Caml-list] Phantom types
>
>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
> Following on the thread "Subtyping structurally-equivalent records, or
> something like it?", I made some experimentations with phantom types.
> Unfortunately, I turns out that I do not understand the results I got.
>
> Could someone on the list explain why the first piece of code is well
> typed, while the second one is not ?
>
>
> type p1
> type p2
>
> type 'a t = float
> let x : p1 t = 0.0
> let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
> let _ = id x (* type checks with type p2 t*)
>
> type 'a t = {l: float}
> let x : p1 t = {l = 0.0}
> let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
> let _ = id x (* ill typed *)
>
> Any thoughts ?
>
> thomas
>
>
>
> 2010/5/1 Stéphane Lescuyer <stephane.lescuyer@inria.fr>:
> > Hi Anthony,
> > I think that maybe using phantom types could do the trick : consider
> > defining empty types for all the different "kinds" of similar
> > constructs that you have, and then define the kinematic record with a
> > phantom parameter type.
> >
> > type position
> > type acceleration
> > type force
> >
> > type 'a kinematic = {lin : Vec.t; ang: Vec.t}
> >
> > By adding some extra typing annotations, you can then constraint your
> > functions to accept (or produce) only a given kind of construct, say
> > for example a position kinematic :
> >
> > let pos_0 : position kinematic = {lin = Vec.origin; ang = Vec.origin }
> >
> > let double_force (v : force kinematic) : force kinematic = {lin =
> > Vec.mult 2. v.lin; ang = v.ang }
> >
> > double_force pos_0 -> does not type check
> >
> > You can write generic functions as add, norm, products, etc : they are
> > just polymorphic with respect to the phantom type parameter. By the
> > way you ensure that you are not multiplying apples and carrots :
> > let plus (v : 'a kinematic) (v' : 'a kinematic) : 'a kinematic = ...
> >
> > Of course, the overhead is that you have to explicitely write some
> > type annotations, especially for constructors, but the runtime
> > overhead is exactly 0. And also, one limitation is that you can't use
> > different projection names for the different cosntructs, since it is
> > really always the same record type that you are using.
> >
> > I hope this helps,
> >
> > Stéphane L.
> >
> > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Anthony Tavener
> > <anthony.tavener@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have this:
> >>
> >>   type kinematic = { lin: Vec.t; ang: Vec.t }
> >>
> >> Which I've been using to represent a medley of physical attributes
> (force,
> >> momentum, velocity, etc.).
> >>
> >> As the physics code becomes increasingly substantial I'm running into
> >> possible human-error, like passing a momentum where a force is expected,
> or
> >> a mass instead of inverse-mass (mass is also a record though different,
> but
> >> inv-mass has the same structure as mass). So I'd like to make distinct
> >> types, such as:
> >>
> >>   type position = { r: Vec.t; theta: Vec.t }
> >>   type acceleration = { a: Vec.t; alpha: Vec.t }
> >>   type force = { f: Vec.t; tau: Vec.t }
> >>
> >> They are structurally equivalent, and ideally I'd like to be able to
> treat
> >> these as 'kinematic' too, since that is how I would express the
> arithmetic
> >> and common functions on these types (add, mul, etc).
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sure I've seen posts on this before but I can't find them now
> (though
> >> what I remember are questions about having distinct 'float' types, such
> as
> >> for degrees vs radians, rather than records).
> >>
> >> I know OCaml doesn't have subtypes for records, which is effectively
> what
> >> I'm looking for. Though this case is a bit more specialized that that...
> all
> >> the subtypes and base type are structurally equivalent. Code for one of
> >> these types would technically work on any... but is there a way to
> inform
> >> the type system of my intentions?
> >>
> >>
> >> I hope someone has a better option than those I've considered, or that I
> >> have a grave misunderstanding somewhere and one of these options is
> actually
> >> good:
> >>
> >> 1. Objects. Subtyping makes these a natural fit, but in this case I
> don't
> >> need anything else which objects provide, and a certainly don't need the
> >> poor performance or method-calling mixed in with my computational code
> >> (aesthetically... yucky, to me). Again, each type is structurally
> >> equivalent. Just some functions want certain types.
> >>
> >> 2. Using distinct records for each type, but no 'kinematic' base type,
> so
> >> all common operations are duplicated for each new type. No performance
> hit.
> >> But the redundant code is horrible -- makes extensions a pain, and a
> >> potential bug-source.
> >>
> >> 2b. Same as above, but putting the common code in a functor which we
> apply
> >> on all the different types. I think this will add some overhead, since
> the
> >> signature of the types (below) would demand accessor functions for the
> >> record fields, in order to uniformly get the fields from the different
> types
> >> (again, even though they are structurally equivalent) -- these calls
> >> probably wouldn't get optimized out. But maybe there is a better way to
> do
> >> this?
> >>
> >>   module type KINEMATIC = sig
> >>     type t
> >>     val lin : t -> Vec.t
> >>     val ang : t -> Vec.t
> >>   end
> >>
> >> 3. Making all the other types different aliases of 'kinematic'; then
> using
> >> explicit type declarations in function parameters and coercion to
> >> 'kinematic' when needed. This makes some ugly code, and the
> added-typesafety
> >> is almost illusory. This is kind-of like 'typesafe' C code doing
> typecasting
> >> gymnastics.
> >>
> >> 4. Adapter functions: 'kinematic_of_force: force -> kinematic', etc. as
> a
> >> way to use the common set of 'kinematic' functions. This is clunky and
> comes
> >> with a big performance hit unless these functions became like
> >> type-coercions. If there is a way this can be done with zero runtime
> cost,
> >> I'd accept the clunkiness. :)
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> I've been using OCaml for a few years now, but this is my first post. I
> feel
> >> many of you are familiar online personae through reading archives,
> blogs,
> >> and websites. Thank-you for all the help I've absorbed through those
> various
> >> channels. And thanks to those making the language I favor for most
> tasks!
> >>
> >> Briefly introducing myself: I've been a professional video-game
> developer
> >> for 15 years, most recently specializing in AI. I quit my last job
> almost
> >> two years ago to travel and program (95% in OCaml!), and am developing a
> >> game now. I've seen indications over the years of other game developers
> >> taking the plunge and then parting ways with OCaml, surely back to C++.
> I
> >> see OCaml as viable and certainly more pleasurable, even with avoiding
> >> mutation. But within a pressure-cooker environment (working for $$ from
> >> someone else) people fall back on what they are most familiar with...
> also
> >> you can't go too rogue while still being part of a team. :)
> >>
> >> -Anthony Tavener
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management:
> >> http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list
> >> Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
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* Re: Phantom types
  2010-05-17 14:59 Phantom types Thomas Braibant
  2010-05-17 15:14 ` [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC] Rabih CHAAR
@ 2010-05-17 16:00 ` Dawid Toton
  2010-05-17 16:37 ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dawid Toton @ 2010-05-17 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: caml-list


> type 'a t = {l: float}
>
> Any thoughts ?

I think the crucial question is when new record types are born. Here is
my opinion:

The "=" sign in the above type mapping definition is what I would call
"delayed binding". "Early binding" would be equivalent to

type tmp = {lab : float}
type 'a s = tmp

(evaluate the right-hand side first, then define the mapping).

The "early binding" creates only one record type, so lab becomes
ordinary record label.
In the given example of the "delayed binding" the t becomes a machine
producing new record types.
Hence, the identifier l is not an ordinary record label. It is shared by
whole family of record types. We can see it this way:

# type 'a t = { la : float } ;;
type 'a t = { la : float; }
# {la = 0.};;
- : 'a t = {la = 0.}

So OCaml interpreter doesn't know the exact type of the last expression,
but it is clever enough to give it a generalized type.
We can use la to construct records of incompatible types:

# type 'a t = { la : float } ;;
type 'a t = { la : float; }
# let yy = ({la = 0.} : int t) ;;
val yy : int t = {la = 0.}
# let xx = ({la = 0.} : string t);;
val xx : string t = {la = 0.}
# xx = yy;;
Error: This expression has type int t but an expression was expected of type
         string t


I suppose my jargon may be not mainstream, apologies.

Dawid


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* Re: [Caml-list] Phantom types
  2010-05-17 14:59 Phantom types Thomas Braibant
  2010-05-17 15:14 ` [Caml-list] Phantom types [NC] Rabih CHAAR
  2010-05-17 16:00 ` Phantom types Dawid Toton
@ 2010-05-17 16:37 ` Goswin von Brederlow
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Goswin von Brederlow @ 2010-05-17 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Braibant; +Cc: caml-list

Thomas Braibant <thomas.braibant@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi list,
>
> Following on the thread "Subtyping structurally-equivalent records, or
> something like it?", I made some experimentations with phantom types.
> Unfortunately, I turns out that I do not understand the results I got.
>
> Could someone on the list explain why the first piece of code is well
> typed, while the second one is not ?
>
>
> type p1
> type p2
>
> type 'a t = float
> let x : p1 t = 0.0
> let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
> let _ = id x (* type checks with type p2 t*)

This is actualy a problem, at least for me. Because that is a type error
you usualy want to specifically catch through the use of phantom types.
But ocaml knows that 'a t = float and all floats are compatible. So it
accepts all 'a t as the same.

To make the phantom type checking work for you you need to move the
definition of your phantom type into a submodule and make the type
abstract through its signature. Any functions converting from one 'a t
to 'b t also need to be in there. To avoid having to use the submodule
name all the time you can use something like

module M : sig type 'a t = private float val make : float -> 'a t end = struct
  type 'a t = float
  let make f = f
end
include M

# let x : p1 t = make 0.0;;
val x : p1 t = 0.
# let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x;;
val id : p2 t -> p2 t = <fun>
# let _ = id x;;
Error: This expression has type p1 t = p1 M.t
       but an expression was expected of type p2 t = p2 M.t

The "private" tells the type system that nobody (outside the module) is
to create a value of that type. Only inside the module, where the type
isn't private can you create one.

> type 'a t = {l: float}
> let x : p1 t = {l = 0.0}
> let id : p2 t -> p2 t = fun x -> x
> let _ = id x (* ill typed *)

Why it works correctly here is explained nicely in the other mailss in
this thread.

> Any thoughts ?
>
> thomas

MfG
        Goswin


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