From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p5SJbD1H007351 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:37:13 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcDAAItCk5CbwQckWdsb2JhbAA9FoRJk1IzjnIUAQEBAQkLCwcUBCG5CZENBYErgROCZoEMhziPSotT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,438,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="97617838" Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 28 Jun 2011 21:36:47 +0200 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4001920322 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:36:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=nc6vh/6wZPnVvjqu61vrg4CcNy4=; b=o/UJXwjQBAPRjZjiFJM/inR2m04QZZFBYBiv/IeuwnpDPWeIRhc/Ua+mtSpDYKNnTQYwERhqmzSbwEMrr6/d40dX7WDBp/3P1rVkYWgrAwTokkMWzLTVkyhi50odJIQDbV1boWHK/BTdQKBJH5yTDPWJTQ3QnTHQdrLXxZDp0PU= X-Sasl-enc: D3Hj3CbhN04/6IP2As4nKOysa5SCLZCKTdYeKH8PQUMC 1309289806 Received: from [192.168.1.206] (64-71-1-165.static.wiline.com [64.71.1.165]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E819D4451A5 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E0A2E02.8080103@ens-lyon.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:39:46 -0700 From: Martin Jambon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20101023 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr References: <20110628074716.7524c468.mihamina@bbs.mg> <4E0989B6.80902@inria.fr> <20110628151734.fc550345.mihamina@bbs.mg> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Caml-list] beginners or not (Was: build problem with 3.12.0; no ocamlrun in /usr/local/bin) On 06/28/11 06:53, Paolo Donadeo wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 15:41, Philippe Wang wrote: >> I believe that discussions about types that less than 1% of all ocaml >> programmers understand, recursive functors (for these it must be even >> worse), GC tweaking, etc. is "hacking". >> I don't think it's harmful to have such discussions in the standard >> mailing list. >> But I think it's harmful that the standard mailing list gives priority >> to such discussions rather than to beginners, even if I kind of prefer >> the current situation for practical reasons. > > 100% agree. > > Personally I consider discussions on garbage collecting recursive > functors very interesting, but keeping the two communities separate is > not a wise choice. I suggest having two mailing lists: - one list focused on using OCaml - one list focused on improving OCaml These two lists should be official and should use a single admin interface. Note that there are currently 3 lists: - caml-list at INRIA https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list (1330 members) - ocaml-beginners at Yahoo! http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners/ (1112 members) - ocaml-developer at Google http://groups.google.com/group/ocaml-developer (205 members) Martin