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From: "Stéphane Glondu" <steph@glondu.net>
To: Dmitry Grebeniuk <gdsfh1@gmail.com>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Lwt and exceptions
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:23:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E746727.3090804@glondu.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPi0vKUhnNuLDyduCs3yBq_O2_3LpzV5=47Y7jfv8FN0kRPc2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Le 17/09/2011 08:38, Dmitry Grebeniuk a écrit :
>   It does not respect the monad associativity:
> 
>     (m >>= f) >>= g   ==   m >>= (fun x -> f x >>= g)
> [...]
> ==============
> open Lwt;
> 
> value () = Printf.printf "case 1, enter two lines:\n%!";
> value m = Lwt_io.read_line Lwt_io.stdin;
> value f_v = Lwt_io.read_line Lwt_io.stdin;
> value f = fun _ -> f_v;
> value g = Lwt.return;
> value res = (m >>= f) >>= g;
> 
> (*
> value () = Printf.printf "case 2, enter two lines:\n%!";
> value f_v = Lwt_io.read_line Lwt_io.stdin;
> value m = Lwt_io.read_line Lwt_io.stdin;
> value f = fun _ -> f_v;
> value g = Lwt.return;
> value res = m >>= (fun x -> f x >>= g);
> *)
> 
> value () = Lwt_main.run (res >>= fun s ->
>   Lwt_io.write_line Lwt_io.stdout ("res = " ^ s));
> ==============

Using Lwt doesn't automatigally make OCaml purely functional... in your
example, you change the order of m and f_v, which both do side-effects,
so they are different in the two instances of res, so they cannot be
compared. Can you give an example that involves only pure functions?

>   When I began to use Lwt, I was badly surprised
> by the fact that Lwt.t values are not real I/O actions.
> So I had to get a new habit: if the top-level module
> value has type Lwt.t 'a, I have to defer its
> computation by wrapping it under "fun () -> <expr>".
> And I have to remember which of my functions return
> Lwt.t values, which of my abstract types really have
> type Lwt.t 'a or contain the Lwt.t 'a values, to defer
> their computations/sideeffects too.

Maybe what you expected was something that encapsulates the IO monad
too. Lwt doesn't do that: as with raw OCaml, IOs are direct with Lwt.


Cheers,

-- 
Stéphane



  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-17  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-13 18:37 rixed
2011-09-13 19:17 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2011-09-14 16:15   ` rixed
2011-09-15 12:24     ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-09-15 10:04 ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-09-15 10:35   ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2011-09-15 12:09   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-09-15 12:33     ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-09-15 12:22   ` Dmitry Grebeniuk
2011-09-15 13:10     ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-09-17  6:38       ` Dmitry Grebeniuk
2011-09-17  9:23         ` Stéphane Glondu [this message]
2011-09-17 10:20         ` Jérémie Dimino

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