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From: Denis Berthod <denis.berthod@gmail.com>
To: Damien Guichard <alphablock@orange.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Dependent types ?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:27:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E82CC7B.10808@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558697822355394825@orange.fr>

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Le 28/09/2011 00:12, Damien Guichard a écrit :
>
> That's pretty cool, everyone and his mother has a solution to the 
> proposed problem.
> I think, for the sake of exhaustivity, i can share my own weird hack.
> It can express all power of 2 sizes (for example add, mul and div).
> It uses a nested data type.
>
>
>   type 'a size =
>    | Word of 'a
>    | DWord of ('a * 'a) size
>
>    type n16 = int size
>    type n32 = (n16 * n16) size
>    type n64 = (n32 * n32) size
>
>    add : 'a size -> 'a size -> 'a size
>    mul : 'a size -> 'a size -> ('a * 'a) size
>    div : ('a * 'a) size -> 'a size -> ('a size * 'a size)

div (2. ** 32.) 1. might be a problem here.

Denis.

> - damien
>
>
> Le 26/09/2011 à 13:42, "Jocelyn Sérot" à écrit :
> >Hello,
> >
> >I've recently come across a problem while writing a domain specific
> >language for hardware synthesis 
> (http://wwwlasmea.univ-bpclermont.fr/Personnel/Jocelyn.Serot/caph.html
> >).
> >The idea is to extend the type system to accept "size" annotations for
> >int types (it could equally apply to floats).
> >The target language (VHDL in this case) accept "generic" functions,
> >operating on ints with variable bit width and I'd like to reflect this
> >in the source language.
> >
> >For instance, I'd like to be able to declare :
> >
> >val foo : int * int -> int
> >
> >(where the type int is not annotated, i.e. "generic")
> >
> >so that, when applied to, let say :
> >
> >val x : int<16>
> >val y : int<16>
> >
> >(where <16> is a size annotation),
> >
> >like in
> >
> >let z = foo (x,y)
> >
> >then the compiler will infer type int<16> for z
> >
> >In fact, the exact type signature for foo would be :
> >
> >val foo : int* int -> int
> >
> >where "s" would be a "size variable" (playing a role similar to a type
> >variable in, for ex : val map : 'a list -> ('a ->'b) -> 'b list).
> >
> >In a sense, it has to do with the theory of sized types (Hughes and
> >Paretto, .. ) and dependent types (DML for ex), but my goal is far
> >less ambitious.
> >In particular, i dont want to do _computations_ (1) on the size (and,
> >a fortiori, don't want to prove anything on the programs).
> >So sized types / dependent types seems a big machinery for a
> >relatively small goal.
> >My intuition is that this is just a variant of polymorphism in which
> >the variables ranged over are not types but integers.
> >Before testing this intuition by trying to implement it, I'd like to
> >know s/o has already tackled this problem.
> >Any pointer - including "well, this is trivial" ! ;-) - will be
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Best wishes
> >
> >Jocelyn
> >
> >(1) i.e. i dont bother supporting declarations like : val mul : int
> >* int -> int <2*n> ...
> >
> >
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-27 22:12 Damien Guichard
2011-09-28  7:27 ` Denis Berthod [this message]
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2011-09-26 11:42 Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-26 12:07 ` Thomas Braibant
2011-09-26 12:13 ` Denis Berthod
2011-09-26 12:45   ` Yaron Minsky
2011-09-26 12:56     ` Denis Berthod
2011-09-26 15:55     ` Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-26 16:44       ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-09-26 21:09         ` Christophe Raffalli
2011-09-27  8:34           ` Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-27  8:23         ` Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-27  9:16           ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-09-27  9:41             ` Arnaud Spiwack
2011-09-27 12:25               ` Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-27 14:13           ` oliver
2011-09-27  8:27     ` Jocelyn Sérot
2011-09-26 22:51 ` oliver

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