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Subject: Re: [Caml-list] How to fail to install Ocaml in 18 steps

Hi,

On Tue 15 Nov 2011 10:43:39 AM CET, Andrej Bauer wrote:
> I would like to report on a recent experience of a student of mine who
> is starting to learn Ocaml. His first taks was to get Ocaml installed
> on his Windows 7. The student previously had no trouble installing
> Java, Eclipse, erlang, and an erlang plugin for Eclipse.
>
> 1. He tried to install with the binary installer for Windows. Norton
> Antivirus told him the installer has too low a reputation and deleted
> it.
So that looks like the major pain point. Any advice on how to make sure 
the installer is Norton-compliant?
> 2. He installed the source, which meant he just unpacked it someplace.
> 3. He installed one of the Ocaml plugins for Eclipse, I think it was
> the fpeclipse one.
> 4. The plugin complained that it can't find Ocaml, even though he told
> it where he unpacked the source.
>
> Then I came in. I realized he just unpacked the source, asked him if
> he tried the binary installer, and he told me the antivirus story. So
> we went on:
>
> 5. We deleted the source.
> 6. We installed Mingw.
> 7. We disabled Norton Antivirus and installed Ocaml with the binary installer.
> 8. Eclipse stopped working.
> 9. I diagoned the problem relatively quickly: the Ocaml installer or
> maybe MinGW destroyed the PATH environment variable.
> 10. We spent some time restoring PATH to a correct value.
I've had reports about that, I'm going to build a new version of the 
installer that hopefully doesn't have this issue. Was the PATH really long?

jonathan