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From: Lukasz Stafiniak <lukstafi@gmail.com>
To: Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net>,
	Caml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml and Boehm
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:11:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a708d20904110711i199ef805h611a04d823c8fb51@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49E09C2D.4080906@starynkevitch.net>

Ouch, we went off-list, that was my mistake...

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Basile STARYNKEVITCH
<basile@starynkevitch.net> wrote:
> Lukasz Stafiniak wrote:
>>
>> Can I call OCaml functions from an application that is GCed by Boehm?
>> No pointer goes from GC-Boehm zone to OCaml zone, but there are
>> pointers from OCaml to Boehm GC-malloced values that need to be
>> respected by Boehm GC.
>>
>
> I don't know, you could just try.
>
> If you really wanted to, you could hack Ocaml runtime to call  GC_add_roots
> on every memory segment its allocate. But I would believe that is a bad
> idea.
>
> Maybe adding some extra indirection,  and having the Ocaml -> Boehm pointers
> going thru Ocaml custom data and a Boehm mallocated table might do the
> trick.
>
> A valid answer can only be given you by the few persons who know well both
> Ocaml runtime implementation & Boehm GC implementation (I do know a bit
> about Ocaml runtime, but I did not dive into Boehm's source code). Very
> probably Damien Doligez is the right person to ask.
>
> But why do you want to do such nasty tricks?
>
> What is your application doing? Is it only a prototype which can
> mysteriously crash, or is it a serious program?
>
It is a large application. They debate whether to use Boehm or smart
pointers. They already have embedded Scheme (Guile) and are about to
embed Python. (Guile is said to be Boehm-compatible, in some sense,
from the next version.) It is possible that Boehm is a no-way for
them, I asked here to investigate this.

(Another question which is off-topic for this list is whether smart
pointers in their situation would be a high performance hit.)

Thank You,
Łukasz


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-11 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-10 20:13 Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11  9:46 ` [Caml-list] " Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2009-04-11 10:42   ` Jon Harrop
     [not found]   ` <4a708d20904110511o7d390807r3d29400cf96d6f35@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <49E09C2D.4080906@starynkevitch.net>
2009-04-11 14:11       ` Lukasz Stafiniak [this message]
2009-04-11 14:27         ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 14:40           ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11 20:40             ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 15:03         ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2009-04-11 20:41           ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-13  9:42           ` Christoph Bauer
2009-04-13 13:15             ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-14  5:25               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12  3:34   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12 12:09     ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-13 17:36 ` Xavier Leroy
2009-04-11 19:17 Ed Keith
2009-04-11 20:36 ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-12  3:25   ` Goswin von Brederlow

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