From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id GAA27727; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:47:11 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28165 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:47:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.futureworlds.it (ip-081-104.customer.panservice.it [212.66.104.81]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3I4mFjq016473 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:48:16 +0200 Received: by www.futureworlds.it (Postfix, from userid 1011) id 52B461F22EF; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:47:05 +0200 (CEST) From: futureworlds Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] Re: How can I lend developers to the Caml team? Message-ID: <4f29de96459e39dd9736d64199d7ea28@mail.futureworlds.it> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:47:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; runtime:01 shaky:99 libs:01 python:01 kernel:01 compilers:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 surprising:01 folks:01 patch:02 external:03 let:04 slow:05 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk > Some parts of the core OCaml distribution could > use outside help .... But the compilers and core > runtime system don't need additional manpower, > in my opinion. > - Xavier Leroy Xavier as a commercial guy I could not disagree more strongly. OCaml desperately needs more "core" developers. A big problem I have selling OCaml to my company is that only what, four people work on the core, and releases are *very* slow. There is CVS, but most programmers I deal with don't want to mess with that, esp. on Windows. They consider it too shaky and too bothersome. Yes, OCaml also needs help in the external libs. So what? Don't turn down any help no matter where it comes from or what it targets, provided it is well qualified. If they want to work on core, let them. If someone offers you a free car, don't turn them down because you wanted a free motorbike. In fact it's very surprising that no third-party core developers have joined to date, after all these years. It's about time. Look at how many folks work on Python core for example. All overseen by benevolent Guido. And the Linux kernel has dozens, all overseen by Linus. It works. Aren't there bugs in the core that these guys could patch and release to the public as prebuilds? That would be a nice start. I hope you find a way to coordinate with them. Jim ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners