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From: Hongbo Zhang <bobzhang1988@gmail.com>
To: Wojciech Meyer <wojciech.meyer@googlemail.com>
Cc: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>,
	 Anil Madhavapeddy <Anil@recoil.org>,
	caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:08:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <504DD828.3000208@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wfmx0zupku.fsf@gmail.com>

Greetings,
On 9/9/12 6:29 PM, Wojciech Meyer wrote:
> Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> This is useful for debugging purposes, and for some (minor) modes of
>> use of Camlp4. However, for most Camlp4 development, this has the
>> severe downside of losing the location information of the original
>> file, if I understand correctly. This means that you don't want to use
>> it as a transparent step towards compilation, but only in exceptional
>> situations where the developers will re-edit the output code.
>
> I think I've to say I disagree it's not useful, when I'm developing a
> syntax extension on top of Camlp4 I really want to see the generated
> code. Moreover to understand some of the more complicated syntax
> extensions like type_conv, deriving, FoldGenerator I need to look at the
> expanded code to understand how to use it - last time I hit the same
Yes, it's damn useful not only for bootstrapping, but also for 
developing to locate type errors. But there's something wrong with 
Camlp4's printer, it has *4* printers in total, writing a printer for an 
Ast which has no backend is totally useless. In my branch of camlp4, *I 
removed all those 4 printers and using tools/pprintast.ml* in ocaml's 
compiler source tree(with some my own bug fixes), and it works very well.
Btw, are you in ICFP? we could have a talk about Camlp4 :-)
> problem it was actually 'deriving-ocsigen' when I needed to implement my
> own Show module - it's just much faster to see what's being generated
> for the usual case, then trying to figure out from the recipe in the
> documentation.  Otherwise for bootstrapping purposes, you might want to
> pre-generate some code too and put into the repository.
>
> --
> Wojciech Meyer
> http://danmey.org
>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-10 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-30 23:19 [Caml-list] " Anil Madhavapeddy
2011-12-31  9:22 ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-09-09 16:29   ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-10 12:08     ` Hongbo Zhang [this message]
2012-09-10 12:18       ` [Caml-list] " bob zhang
2012-09-10 13:04         ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 12:27         ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2012-09-11 12:50           ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 13:41             ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
     [not found]             ` <1347370879.3496.9@samsung>
2012-09-11 14:02               ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 20:24           ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Hongbo Zhang
2012-09-11 23:13             ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2012-09-12  5:16               ` Hongbo Zhang
2012-09-10 12:55       ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-10 13:52         ` Alain Frisch
2012-09-10 14:36           ` Paolo Donadeo
2012-09-18  6:08             ` [Caml-list] Slides of ML workshop (was: working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild) Alain Frisch
2012-09-20 21:04     ` [Caml-list] working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild Anil Madhavapeddy

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