From: simon cruanes <simon.cruanes.2007@m4x.org>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] try...finally , threads, stack-tracebacks .... in ocaml
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:28:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5165E7AB.8040703@m4x.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4989654.hHte10Um7f@groupon>
An interesting solution for the safe resource acquisition/release, I
believe, is the Go statement "defer" [1]. In OCaml, you would write
something like:
let my_fun () =
Mutex.lock some_lock;
defer (fun () -> Mutex.unlock some_lock);
(* critical section to the end of the block *)
....
let final_result = 42 in
final_result (* returns, but runs defer-ed statements first *)
In case an exception is thrown before the function returns, defer-ed
statements would still be executed, before the exception is raised again
(with the full stacktrace). Defer-ed statements are executed in the
reverse order of their definitions. It also works for resources like
files, sockets, etc.
Simon
[1] http://blog.golang.org/2010/08/defer-panic-and-recover.html
On 11/04/2013 00:16, Chet Murthy wrote:
>
> People have previously asked about try...finally support in Ocaml, and
> it's been observed (correctly) that you can write a little combinator
> to give you this support, e.g.
>
> let finally f arg finf =
> let rv = try Inl(f arg) with e ->
> Inr e
> in (try finf arg rv with e -> ());
> match rv with
> Inl v -> v
> | Inr e -> raise e
>
> The problem is, you discard stack-traceback when you rethrow the
> exception. One can program around this explicitly by capturing the
> backtrace string and appending it to the rethrown exception, but it's
> cumbersome and won't work for exceptions like Not_found that are
> already defined without a mutable string slot.
>
> It sure would be nice of ocaml had try...finally that preserved the
> traceback information properly .... though maybe it isn't possible.
> Certainly in the case where the finally block doesn't raise any
> exceptions itself (even those that are caught silently), it seems like
> it ought to be possible.
>
> In an unrelated but similar sense, when programming with threads in
> ocaml, it's easy (easy!) to deadlock your program. Now, I've been
> writing Java programs for years, and so am aware of how careful one
> must be, and I'm writing my code using a single mutex protecting the
> critical section. But I forgot and didn't mutex-protect one method --
> what merely printed out the contents of a shared daa-structure, and
> when that printout coincided with a thread actually mutating the
> data-structure, I got a deadlock. Not hard to track down, and I
> chided myself for being lax.
>
> But the thing is, in Java (blecch!) I would have been able to use the
> "javacore" facility to get a full-thread stack-traceback, and could
> have used that to get a good idea of where my deadlock was.
>
> I'm not saying that this is something ocaml should have, but I figured
> I'd ask: are others (who use threads in ocaml) wishing for something
> like this?
>
> --chet--
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-10 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 22:16 Chet Murthy
2013-04-10 22:28 ` simon cruanes [this message]
2013-04-11 0:19 ` Francois Berenger
2013-04-10 23:35 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-04-10 23:37 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-04-11 6:36 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-04-11 6:42 ` Chet Murthy
2013-04-11 7:11 ` Francois Berenger
2013-04-11 7:17 ` Chet Murthy
2013-04-11 8:04 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-04-11 8:48 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-04-11 16:43 ` Chet Murthy
2013-04-11 11:13 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-04-11 6:25 ` Jacques-Henri Jourdan
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