From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0567281799 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:32:18 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of berenger@riken.jp) identity=pra; client-ip=134.160.33.162; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="berenger@riken.jp"; x-sender="berenger@riken.jp"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: domain of berenger@riken.jp designates 134.160.33.162 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=134.160.33.162; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="berenger@riken.jp"; x-sender="berenger@riken.jp"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: Pass (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: domain of postmaster@postman.riken.jp designates 134.160.33.162 as permitted sender) identity=helo; client-ip=134.160.33.162; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="berenger@riken.jp"; x-sender="postmaster@postman.riken.jp"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswBAPF+8FGGoCGinGdsb2JhbABbgzsBsDSNeCOBCg4BAQEBAQgLCQkUKIIcCAEBBThAARALGAkWDwkDAgECAUUTAQcBAYVyghq6C499B4JtgRMDiSiON4EphHqOTQ X-IPAS-Result: AswBAPF+8FGGoCGinGdsb2JhbABbgzsBsDSNeCOBCg4BAQEBAQgLCQkUKIIcCAEBBThAARALGAkWDwkDAgECAUUTAQcBAYVyghq6C499B4JtgRMDiSiON4EphHqOTQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,738,1367964000"; d="scan'208";a="22175856" Received: from postman2.riken.jp (HELO postman.riken.jp) ([134.160.33.162]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2013 03:32:16 +0200 Received: from postman.riken.jp (postman2.riken.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postman.riken.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CF0E12605E5 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:32:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from [172.27.98.103] (rikad98.riken.jp [134.160.214.98]) by postman.riken.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 14A1D1270051 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:32:13 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <51F0801A.5080603@riken.jp> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:32:10 +0900 From: Francois Berenger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Ocaml Mailing List References: <1374669368.25411.5@samsung> <1B6BB035-9909-4F0C-9DEA-F713B977A467@ocamlpro.com> <7F8931D5-E65D-49EB-B54D-A50716F3EFDD@recoil.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 6.0.0.2142326, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2013.7.25.12717 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down On 07/25/2013 02:05 AM, Gabriel Scherer wrote: >> I think that's fair, but the devil is in the details. The core of OASIS >> is sound, but is hampered by its need to build on top of ocamlfind >> and ocamlbuild, and the ensuing impedance mismatches that follow (e.g. >> manually editing _tags files, and trying to debug which tool a failure >> happens in is an advanced operation). OPAM packages represent an output >> collection of (several optionally built) ocamlfind packages, and >> OASIS sits awkwardly in between these two right now, with ocamlbuild >> crashing the party and getting drunk in the kitchen. > > While we're at it (and hoping a diversion might restores some > constructiveness in this discussion), I have also been thinking about > this aspect of OASIS that I don't really like. I use ocamlbuild > -use-ocamlfind, but I'd rather build my _tags and myocamlbuild.ml > files completely separately from OASIS Personnally, I'd rather have a single human-readable file containing all the build information. With the current setup in oasis used by a developper, you get: a _tags file, a myocamlbuild.ml and you need a Makefile on top of that (with some parts automatically generated) to pass more options to ocamlbuild. Amazing! But at least I see a clear culprit (ocamlbuild). Regards, F.