Re: [Caml-list] Thread behaviour

[Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>]

On 2013-09-27 12:10, Tom Ridge wrote:
> I have a little program which creates a thread, and then sits in a loop:
> [...]
> When I run the program I get the output:
> 
> 1
> 2
> 
> and the program then sits in the loop.

On my machine (OCaml 4.01.0, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS), I sometimes see what
you see, and sometimes I see the expected output:

1
2
3
hello
4

It all depends on the whim of the OS scheduler.  OCaml has no control
over it.  And you shoudn't expect any kind of fairness from the OS
scheduler, esp. Linux's, which gladly jettisons any pretense of
fairness in the hope of getting better throughput.

> Would it be fair to say that OCaml does not currently support
> pre-emptively scheduled threads?

This would be inexact.  OCaml's threads yield the runtime lock, giving
other threads a chance to grab it and run, in the following cases:

1- when performing an I/O operation that may block or take a long time
("flush" in your example)
2- when the program calls Thread.yield (duh)
3- when a timer interrupt is detected at certain program points:
  3a- for native-code compilation: minor heap allocations
  3b- for bytecode compilation: function calls + beginning of every
      loop iteration.

What happens after yielding is the business of the OS scheduler,
though.

> I should be using a message passing interface written in some other
> language, with bindings to OCaml.

You have plenty of options depending on what you really need in the
end:

- For parallelism (getting speedups from a sequential program),
  consider the Parmap and Functory libraries.
- For concurrency with message passing and possible distribution,
  consider JoCaml.
- If you want to write your own message-passing library and want to
  control every bit of the scheduling, LWT (lightweight cooperative
  threads) is probably best.
- You can also use system threads, but only if you give up on any hope
  of fairness and write in a style that is resistant against whatever
  awful scheduling the OS will do for you.

Hope this helps,

- Xavier Leroy