From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21546BB9C for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jAN80OB5031234 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:24 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA31500 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jAN80Nxl026325 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:23 +0100 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so1272406wra for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:00:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kJKPcqUGeSJqUQ3FJOcUg5UMKBECZ3tPY0eZh8twZXH1YKnStGDEQD05hZSA1ZbFGYaf2jnqjoAswImqF3TwxFO61RHb0vYzViY6Yz7uNXDuSeZOl8vcV3HjTUxidL+IY8E/vRczsfad+cFX0Iyyiz1bCeP3t0Ll6P9uYvVMYi0= Received: by 10.65.105.3 with SMTP id h3mr399584qbm; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.241.4 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:00:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53c655920511230000o6e21828cq@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:22 +0100 From: David Baelde Reply-To: david.baelde@ens-lyon.org To: caml-list Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Mandelbrot renderer In-Reply-To: <200511230150.59163.jon@ffconsultancy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200511230150.59163.jon@ffconsultancy.com> X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 43842198.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 43842197.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 renderer:01 ocaml:01 renderer:01 ocaml:01 renders:01 coq:01 lacks:01 real-world:01 cheers:01 opengl:01 exists:01 breaks:02 chan:05 mainstream:06 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 2005/11/23, Jon Harrop : > Following Oliver's objections regarding the lack of serious software writ= ten > in OCaml (e.g. web servers), I have written a very serious Mandelbrot > renderer. The program is 35 lines of OCaml and renders using OpenGL. This > page breaks it down and describes how it works: Nice job, but I don't think it has something to do with Olivier's remarks. Serious software written in OCaml exists (Astr=E9e, Coq, ..), no one doubts that. What lacks is mainstream serious software, and it makes OCaml not so visible. People don't realize OCaml is a general purpose language: I was once told on an IRC chan: "OCaml ? I only know one software written in OCaml..." Also, people learn to write many fun real-world application in C, but only "boring" scientific stuff in OCaml (when they're taught OCaml). That's the kind of problems which was adressed. Cheers. -- David