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From: Francois Berenger <francois.berenger@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] One build system to rule them all?
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:29:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5410522E.3050207@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN6ygO=P_QTa6Wk0=Wx=0XLwhGOP=16eGaGiacA5N60nRjApDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/10/2014 02:49 PM, Yotam Barnoy wrote:
> It appears to me that every couple of months we hear of someone
> implementing yet another build system in ocaml. Given the success of
> opam, I think it's clear that sometimes a monolithic solution, behind
> which the entire community can organize, is the best solution --
> especially for infrastructure. Looking at haskell, having cabal as the
> main build system has really helped them advance in terms of supporting
> other platforms (such as windows), and since all community efforts in
> this realm are focused on cabal, they can improve it rapidly.
>
> a. Is there any build system we can organize behind to crown as the
> official build system?
> b. What are the use-cases missing from specific build systems, that have
> driven people to use other build systems?
> c. To pick one possible candidate, if ocamlbuild were spun out of the
> compiler, could it be enhanced to cover all the main use-cases so
> (almost) everyone would be happy with it?
>
> It's just such a shame to see the ocaml community re-inventing the wheel
> over and over again, each time with some limitation so that the next
> person needs to do the same thing yet again.

It is not a shame, it is a tradition in the ocaml community! :-D
For example, almost each ocaml programmer that I know of have written a 
logger (me included, it's even in opam so that I can reinvent another 
wheel next time).

More seriously, concerning build systems, we clearly have quite some
choice on the OCaml shelf:
- obuild
- ocamlbuild
- omake
- oasis (which in fact uses ocamlbuild, don't forget that)
- jenga
- [...]

My preffered is obuild (https://github.com/ocaml-obuild/obuild),
for the terseness, readability and centralization of its build 
descriptions. I would love to see the user community of obuild grow,
so that we can get rid of more bugs, be able to compile _any_
OCaml project with it and implement even more cool features 
(contributors are very welcome).

I don't want a ring to rule them all, jut a ring that fits _my_ finger. ;)

-- 
Regards,
Francois.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-10 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-10 12:49 Yotam Barnoy
2014-09-10 13:00 ` Simon Cruanes
2014-09-10 13:02 ` Adrien Nader
2014-09-10 13:05 ` David Sheets
2014-09-10 14:04   ` Thomas Braibant
2014-09-10 14:13     ` Adrien Nader
2014-09-10 13:18 ` Mark Shinwell
2014-09-10 13:29 ` Francois Berenger [this message]
2014-09-10 13:53   ` Jacques-Pascal Deplaix
2014-09-10 13:55     ` Francois Berenger
2014-09-10 14:17   ` Maxence Guesdon
2014-09-10 19:13     ` Drup
2014-09-10 22:56       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-13 12:01       ` rixed
2014-09-13 12:21         ` Drup
2014-09-13 12:37           ` rixed
2014-09-13 12:50             ` Adrien Nader
2014-09-13 13:05             ` Drup
2014-09-19 11:15       ` Matej Kosik
2014-09-10 14:23   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-10 15:17     ` Leonardo Laguna Ruiz
2014-09-10 18:59       ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-09-10 19:16         ` Peter Zotov
2014-09-10 19:56           ` Sebastien Mondet
2014-09-10 20:15             ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-09-10 23:20             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-10 20:13         ` Adrien Nader
2014-09-11  7:53         ` Francois Berenger
2014-09-11 10:37           ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-12 14:08             ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-09-12 14:31               ` Francois Berenger
2014-09-12 14:36               ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-09-12 18:49                 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-12 15:10               ` SF Markus Elfring
2014-09-12 15:34               ` Adrien Nader
2014-09-12 18:50               ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2014-09-14 18:46               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-09-13 12:22         ` rixed
2014-09-15 13:34         ` Stéphane Glondu
2014-09-18 21:15           ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-09-18 21:21             ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-09-18 21:36               ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19 12:31                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-09-19 13:06                   ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-09-18 21:23             ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19  7:27               ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-09-19 15:03                 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-12 16:54 ` [Caml-list] Re : " r.3
2014-09-14 18:16 ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2014-09-19  9:14 ` r.3

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