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From: james woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>
To: The Trade <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:19:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B4181A-527F-11D8-9FE3-000393B8133A@wetware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40193B59.9050700@ps.uni-sb.de>

On 29 Jan 2004, at 08:56, Andreas Rossberg wrote:
> Martin Berger wrote:
>>>  Nothing? Did you forget about the possibility to code without
>>> side effects?
>> you have this possibility in java too, albeit less conveniently
>> due to lacking type expressivity.
>
> And even more so due to the lack of real closures, and tail calls. You 
> are practically bound to stateful loops and iterators in Java and 
> similar languages.

Not to mention the happy fact that the library of reuseable code in 
Java, widely touted as "extensive and rich," is heavy with side 
effects.  Unless you want to rewrite the world to get rid of side 
effects, you're stuck trying to wrap imperative code in functional 
wrappers-- a trick not easily done without using the continuation 
monad.

I can't even *imagine* what the continuation monad looks like in Java.  
Does anyone have an example?


-- 
j h woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>
that's my village calling... no doubt, they want their idiot back.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-29 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-27  6:32 [Caml-list] ocaml killer Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27  8:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-27  9:43   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 18:32     ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-28  4:38       ` skaller
2004-01-28  5:30         ` james woodyatt
     [not found]   ` <40168498.6070708@tfb.com>
2004-01-27 19:10     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-28 13:29       ` David Fox
2004-01-28 15:12         ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-27  9:41 ` Alexander Danilov
2004-01-27  9:57   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 16:43     ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-27 18:19       ` David Fox
2004-01-27 18:47       ` Richard Jones
2004-01-27 19:29         ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-28 13:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-28 23:26 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-28 23:47   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:00     ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:04       ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:11       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:34         ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:47           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer' Matt Gushee
2004-01-29  8:52           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 16:20             ` fancy types (was Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer) William Lovas
2004-01-29 17:13               ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:26                 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-01-29 17:17               ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 17:41                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 19:18                   ` William Lovas
2004-01-30 10:36                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-31  3:39                       ` William Lovas
2004-02-01  2:11                         ` Vasile Rotaru
2004-02-02 11:08                           ` Florian Hars
2004-01-29 18:33                 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 17:53         ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer skaller
2004-01-29  5:20     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-29  6:36   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-29  8:53   ` [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency james woodyatt
2004-01-29  9:46     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 10:37       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 11:51         ` Michael Hicks
2004-01-29 12:20         ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 12:43           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 15:42         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 16:11           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 16:56             ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 17:19               ` james woodyatt [this message]
2004-01-29 17:43               ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 17:54                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 18:08                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  0:19                   ` Lauri Alanko
2004-01-29 19:37                 ` skaller
2004-01-30  0:05                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  6:52                     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30  8:53                       ` Issac Trotts
2004-01-30 20:45                       ` skaller
2004-01-31  6:29                         ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 20:12                     ` skaller
2004-01-29 18:35         ` skaller
2004-01-29  9:56     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 18:26     ` skaller

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