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From: Arkady Andrukonis <grazingcows@yahoo.com>
To: Caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Strings
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:31:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <593018.78609.qm@web63003.mail.re1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238843572.6250.49.camel@Blefuscu>


Hi,

It appears that Java sidesteps this issue by making string classes final, so that whenever a string object gets modified a new copy of it is generated, giving the appearance of mutable strings, but not really so. It seems Caml is on the right track with immutable strings, we have work-around methods for those occasions where relegating a state change into a confined area is a workable solution. Otherwise the benefit of functional programming would be lost.

kadee

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, David Teller <David.Teller@univ-orleans.fr> wrote:

> From: David Teller <David.Teller@univ-orleans.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Strings
> To: "Jon Harrop" <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
> Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 7:12 AM
> The bad thing is that, whenever you have to return text in
> an otherwise
> functional program, you need to enter "mutable array
> of bytes" land. You
> can't just assume that the user isn't going to
> modify that string,
> because, they can, possibly by accident, and any invariant
> relying on
> the fact that your strings can't change are going to be
> broken. In
> particular, any StringSet, any StringMap, etc.
> 
> Cheers,
>  David
> 
> On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 11:11 +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > Why? This data structure is a mutable array of bytes
> and should be treated as 
> > such.
> > 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-18 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-03 11:56 Strings Jon Harrop
2009-04-03 12:25 ` [Caml-list] Strings Paolo Donadeo
2009-04-03 14:18 ` Ashish Agarwal
2009-04-03 14:46   ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-03 15:03     ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-04-03 16:52       ` Martin Jambon
2009-04-03 17:50         ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-04-03 19:46           ` Paolo Donadeo
2009-04-03 20:41             ` Harrison, John R
2009-04-04 10:11               ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-04 11:12                 ` David Teller
2009-04-04 11:40                   ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-04 12:34                     ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-18 12:31                   ` Arkady Andrukonis [this message]
2009-04-04 10:13             ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-03 21:44           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-04  9:10             ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-05 10:06               ` Strings Zheng Li
2009-04-06  9:20                 ` Strings David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-06 10:07                   ` Strings Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-06 11:03                   ` Strings Zheng Li
2009-04-04 17:11           ` [Caml-list] Strings Kuba Ober
2009-04-04 17:26             ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-05 20:54           ` Richard Jones
2009-04-05 23:40             ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-04-03 18:24         ` Florian Hars
2009-04-03 20:34         ` Arnaud Spiwack
2009-04-04 10:20       ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-04  9:14 ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-04  9:26   ` Alp Mestan
2009-04-04 10:55     ` blue storm
2009-04-04 21:51     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-04 23:35       ` Yaron Minsky
2009-04-05  9:36         ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-05 10:08           ` Alp Mestan
2009-04-05 21:41             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-05 21:40           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-05  2:55       ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-05  4:22         ` Edgar Friendly
2009-04-05  7:03           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-05  6:57         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-05  7:11           ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-04 10:11   ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-04 21:39   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-05  7:14   ` Romain Beauxis
2009-04-05  9:34     ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-04-05 21:37     ` Goswin von Brederlow

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