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From: "Don Syme" <dsyme@microsoft.com>
To: <yminsky@cs.cornell.edu>, "Caml Mailing List" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Estimating the size of the ocaml community
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:23:31 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5DCA48FADB33FF4D8C32A164DF24F2B00264F2F9@EUR-MSG-03.europe.corp.microsoft.com> (raw)



Microsoft has used OCaml for SLAM (http://research.microsoft.com/slam/)
and other amazing tools that find really deep bugs in the C code
implementing device drivers. Byron Cook spoke about this at INRIA
recently.  So when Windows doesn't crash when you pull your PCMCIA card
out at the very moment your machine goes into "hibernate" mode (roughly
speaking one of the bugs they found, though I've probably got the
details wrong) then remember that OCaml made a big contribution to that
:-)

Don

P.S. All opinions my own.

-----Original Message-----
From: caml-list-admin@yquem.inria.fr
[mailto:caml-list-admin@yquem.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Yaron Minsky
Sent: 02 February 2005 21:31
To: Caml Mailing List
Subject: [Caml-list] Estimating the size of the ocaml community

I've been trying to come up with some estimates on the size of the ocaml
community, and I'm wondering if others have come up with anything
better.
Here's what I have so far:

- The mailing list is supposed to have about 500 subscribers[1].  Hard
to know
  if this number is up-to-date.  I wonder if that number has changed
over
  time, and what it is today.

- The OCaml Humps contributors page[2] has about 200 members.

- If you type OCaml into google, you get about 800k hits.  This compares
with
  29 million for C++.  "python programming" (without the quotes) gets
about 5
  million

- If you type "ocaml resume", you get about 5.5k hits.  If you type
"python
  resume", you get about 270k hits.  If you type "C++ resume", you get
almost
  1m hits.

- Some schools teach ocaml.  Brown and Caltech apparently have intro
ocaml
  courses.  Any other places that teach the language?  Any ideas on how
many
  students go through these courses?

- A few companies use ocaml, including Baretta DE&IT, Dassault Aviation,
  LexiFi, Artisan (which has been bought up by AMD?)  Anyone know of
other
  such companies?  It would be interesting to get a list togther of
companies
  that use ocaml significantly.

I'd be interested of any evidence people have of the size and vibrancy
of the
ocaml community.  I'd be particularly interested in evidence of ocaml
use in
the United States, since it seems like a majority of ocaml use is
outside of
the US.

[1] http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list
[2] http://caml.inria.fr/humps/index_contributors.html

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             reply	other threads:[~2005-02-03  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-03  0:23 Don Syme [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-20 12:49 Jon Harrop
2005-02-20 13:56 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-20 16:18 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2005-02-21  2:07   ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-21  6:25     ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-04 19:36 Ernesto Posse
2005-02-04 23:57 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05 13:24   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05  2:27 ` skaller
2005-02-05  2:55   ` Michael Walter
2005-02-05  3:07   ` Ernesto Posse
2005-02-05 13:31     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05 15:26       ` William D.Neumann
2005-02-05 16:41       ` Richard Jones
2005-02-05  4:58   ` Christopher A. Watford
2005-02-05 16:09   ` Martin Willensdorfer
2005-02-05  7:13 ` Kenneth Knowles
2005-02-05 13:39   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-02 21:31 Yaron Minsky
2005-02-02 21:36 ` [Caml-list] " Christopher A. Watford
2005-02-02 21:54   ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-03  3:58     ` skaller
2005-02-03  6:35       ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2005-02-03 16:29         ` Olivier Pérès
2005-02-03 18:06         ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 18:34           ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-03 21:16             ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 21:58               ` Paul Snively
2005-02-03 22:42                 ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-02-03 23:29                   ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 22:33               ` josh
2005-02-03 23:22                 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 23:39                   ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04  9:04                     ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04  9:37                       ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 10:11                       ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-04 11:14                         ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04 12:15                           ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 12:46                             ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-02-04 12:51                             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-02-04 13:43                               ` Richard W. M. Jones
2005-02-04 16:01                                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-02-04 16:52                                 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:21                                   ` Frédéric Gava
2005-02-04 17:55                                     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 16:48                               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 12:15                           ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-04 16:42                         ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 10:58                     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:27                       ` Damien Doligez
2005-02-04 17:59                         ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04  1:17                   ` Michael Walter
2005-02-04 10:53                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 22:01                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-05 12:27                       ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-06  0:08                         ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-03 23:29               ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04  2:33               ` Jon Harrop
     [not found]                 ` <877e9a170502031856175260c8@mail.gmail.com>
2005-02-04  2:56                   ` Michael Walter
2005-02-04  9:29                 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 10:26                   ` Andreas Rossberg
2005-02-04 17:54                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 15:43                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 19:54                   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-04 20:20                     ` Karl Zilles
2005-02-04 22:07                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04  9:41                 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-04 10:03                   ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 16:00                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 17:32                     ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-04 18:46                       ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05  1:49                     ` skaller
2005-02-04  8:55               ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-04  9:36                 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-04 10:30               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 22:02                 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-02-05 13:14                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-04 21:55             ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2005-02-03 19:04           ` ronniec95
2005-02-03 20:06           ` skaller
2005-02-03 20:50             ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 21:14               ` Jon Harrop
2005-02-03 21:34                 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 22:07                   ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-02-03 21:47                 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-02-04  3:52               ` skaller
2005-02-04 16:12             ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-05  2:04               ` skaller
2005-02-03 20:35           ` chris.danx
2005-02-03  8:36     ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-03  8:39       ` Matthieu Brucher
2005-02-03 16:23       ` Olivier Pérès
2005-02-03 10:10     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2005-02-02 22:10 ` Kenneth Knowles
2005-02-02 22:40 ` Michael Jeffrey Tucker
2005-02-02 22:52 ` Richard Jones
2005-02-02 23:42 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-02-03  6:53 ` Evan Martin
2005-02-03  6:57 ` Eric Stokes
2005-02-03 20:53 ` chris.danx
2005-02-03 23:29 ` Sylvain LE GALL
2005-02-03 23:38 ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-07  8:49 ` Sven Luther
2005-02-07  9:23 ` Johann Spies

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