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From: "Loup Vaillant" <loup.vaillant@gmail.com>
To: "Vincent Hanquez" <tab@snarc.org>
Cc: "Jon Harrop" <jon@ffconsultancy.com>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Rope is the new string
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:05:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f9f8f4a0710100105u3c71fc37yf9bba68ad213fffd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071010073526.GA21648@snarc.org>

2007/10/10, Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:06:59PM +0200, Loup Vaillant wrote:
> > Err, I would prefer this:
> >
> >(* big snipet *)
>
> yes I agree, that what I had in mind, but didn't want to clutter my example.
> internally the ustring can hold the format. it should look something like:
>
> type unicode_type = UTF8 | UTF16 | UTF32 | Latin | .............
> type ustring = unicode_type * string
>
> of_string : string -> unicode_type -> ustring (* raise if not correct type *)
>
> which is the same as what you describe, except that you have one parsing
> function for every type ;)

That's even better.

> > print
> >   (append
> >     scan_Latin1
> >     (of_string text))
> > (* this is not Lisp *)
> >
> > Just that the sample code you wrote suggest you could have different
> > types of unicode strings. I want only one type, so I don't mind the
> > encoding, except when reading and printing (to files and native
> > strings). To mind even less, you could have a general scan and
> > from_string functions which guess which encoding is used (not very
> > safe, but cool)
>
> or have a autodetect format in the of_string format wanted along with
> the other encoding ;)

But of course.


> > > that way when I'm manipulating unicode string, i won't try to append a
> > > binary string to a unicode string. I can code safely with my unicode
> > > string (whatever the format utf-{8..32}), and certainly expect the type
> > > system to complain loudly when doing something that might break unicode.
> >
> > The exception system can do that, but how could the type system?
> > (Would be better if it could.)
>
> well it does now if you define ustring as an opaque type. you do your
> parsing at one place (from string to ustring), at this place it can
> raise exception if not a proper format. but once you're manipulating
> ustring, it's safe to do whatever you want with them.

OK.


So, it seem we agree more or less on the interface. Now what about the
implementation? Ropes? Flat? I like ropes, personally: catenation is
made fast, and look-up are still sub-linear. In general Ropes look
cool for functional strings. Last but not the least, they were almost
mandatory for saving Endo at the ICFP this year. ;-)

Loup Vaillant


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-10  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08 15:08 Correct way of programming a CGI script Tom
2007-10-08 15:32 ` [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2007-10-08 16:04 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-10-08 21:37   ` skaller
2007-10-08 22:21     ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-10-08 23:05       ` skaller
2007-10-08 23:19         ` skaller
2007-10-08 23:23           ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-10-08 23:47             ` skaller
2007-10-09  5:49         ` David Teller
2007-10-09 10:15         ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-10-09 15:29           ` skaller
2007-10-09 15:49             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-09 16:00               ` Jon Harrop
2007-10-09 14:02         ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-09 15:25           ` skaller
2007-10-09 15:33             ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-09 15:48             ` Jon Harrop
2007-10-08 23:37       ` skaller
2007-10-09 10:20         ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-10-09 13:40           ` Rope is the new string Jon Harrop
2007-10-09 15:57             ` [Caml-list] " Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-09 16:42               ` Loup Vaillant
2007-10-09 16:55                 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-09 17:32                   ` Loup Vaillant
2007-10-09 19:51                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-09 21:06                       ` Loup Vaillant
2007-10-10  7:35                         ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-10  8:05                           ` Loup Vaillant [this message]
2007-10-11 13:23                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-09 22:04                       ` Chris King
2007-10-11 13:03                         ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-11 13:54                           ` skaller
2007-10-11 14:21                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-10-11 14:27                               ` Benjamin Monate
2007-10-11 14:48                               ` skaller
2007-10-11 21:16                                 ` Alain Frisch
2007-10-15 20:35                                 ` Warning on home-made functions dealing with UTF-8 Julien Moutinho
2007-10-15 23:51                                   ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-10-16  2:21                                     ` Julien Moutinho
2007-10-16 18:46                                   ` Julien Moutinho
2007-10-16 18:51                                     ` Julien Moutinho
2007-10-17  2:23                                     ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-10-09 10:26     ` [Caml-list] Correct way of programming a CGI script Gerd Stolpmann
2007-10-09 15:16       ` skaller
2007-10-09 15:31         ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-09 12:52     ` Brian Hurt
2007-10-09 13:56   ` Jon Harrop
2007-10-09 15:18     ` William D. Neumann
2007-10-08 16:11 ` Loup Vaillant
2007-10-08 19:07   ` Christophe TROESTLER

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