From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBFEBB81 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:43:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iBHIhGBq004132 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:43:16 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09240 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:43:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iBHIhFbR029714 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:43:16 +0100 Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id iBHIh8wI000121; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (dsl081-080-123.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.80.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id iBHIh6FH002641; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41C3126A.3060101@barettadeit.com> References: <41C3126A.3060101@barettadeit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <74A2EF44-505B-11D9-9DB1-000A27DEEC20@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ocaml From: Paul Snively Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [OT] Rant about VCS Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:42:51 -0800 To: Alex Baretta X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 41C328C4.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 41C328C3.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 hash:01 baretta:01 wrote:01 model:01 haskell:01 lacks:01 ocaml:01 compiler:01 ocamlrun:01 compiler:01 emacs:01 tuareg:01 o'caml:01 emacs:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 17, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Alex Baretta wrote: > It appeared to us that Darcs might solve the problem: it seems based > on a reasonably sound algebraic model and is written in Haskell, which > supposedly should be a bonus compared to other VCSs written in C. > > Yet, darcs lacks some of the most basic features of a VCS, such as > handling metadata (the executable bit, essentially). The darcs > developers say that this is a "planned feature" but nothing really > urgent. Actually, we think this is a critical feature in a big project > which relies on scripts and other executables distributed together > with the source for bootstrapping purposes. Ocaml itself ships with a > full compiler to be able to bootstrap, albeit this does not depend on > the executable bit being set anywhere since ocamlrun is generated by > the C compiler. > > Other VCSs such as subversion seem to be so unstable as to severely > discourage their use in an industrial project. > darcs is a great tool. 1.0.1 was just released. For your purposes you'll be interested in the "setprefs test" sub-command, which allows you to define a process to execute before some darcs commands--see the docs for details. I use EMACS and Tuareg Mode for my O'Caml programming, so I also use darcsum.el to integrate EMACS and darcs. I find this quite nice. If all of this is too much, consider GNU Arch in its tla incarnation, which does version file flags on POSIX filesystems, and also has very good EMACS integration in the form of XTLA. Best regards, Paul Snively -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHDKLYACgkQbot1wzHBQBVAMgCbB2MTet7XB4AOzd9eyqdIT7Mj KO0An2ClbNs7G/ZkS7Hp7RXHKBje99gp =nrMe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----