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From: Andreas Rossberg <rossberg@mpi-sws.org>
To: OCaml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Recursive subtyping issue
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:52:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76EDF2F2-8B02-4C97-B083-EC74630D8ECA@mpi-sws.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B891A0C.604@citycable.ch>

On Feb 27, 2010, at 14:11, Guillaume Yziquel wrote:
>> # type q = private w and w = private q;;
>> type q = private w
>> and w = private q
>> # let f (x : q) = (x : q :> w);;
>> val f : q -> w = <fun>
>> # let f (x : q) = (x : w);;
>> Error: This expression has type q but an expression was expected of  
>> type w
>> #

Interesting, but these are vacuous type definitions. In fact, I would  
call it a bug that the compiler does not reject them (it does when you  
remove at least one of the "private"s). In any case, I don't quite  
understand how this pathological behaviour is supposed to help,  
because the types are uninhabited anyway.

> I've been looking all over at this issue, but simply cannot find a  
> way out. While experimenting on this, I've stumbled on a number of  
> quirky issues with the type system.
>
> First one: http://ocaml.janestreet.com/?q=node/26

That's indeed a slight oversight in the design of the module type  
system. (FWIW, this is possible in SML.)

> Second one:
>
>> # type 'a q = <m : 'a>;;
>> type 'a q = < m : 'a >
>> # let f : 'a q -> 'a q = fun x -> x;;
>> val f : 'a q -> 'a q = <fun>
>> # let o = object method m : 'a. 'a -> 'a = fun x -> x end;; val o :  
>> < m : 'a. 'a -> 'a > = <obj>
>> # f o;;
>> Error: This expression has type < m : 'a. 'a -> 'a >
>>       but an expression was expected of type 'b q
>>       The universal variable 'a would escape its scope

This example would require full impredicative polymorphism, because  
you would need to instantiate 'a q with a polymorphic type. The ML  
type system does not support that, because it generally makes type  
inference undecidable. But see e.g. Le Botlan & Remy's work on ML^F  
for a more powerful approach than what we have today.

/Andreas


  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-27 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-27  1:52 Guillaume Yziquel
2010-02-27  6:38 ` [Caml-list] " Andreas Rossberg
2010-02-27 10:25   ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-02-27 11:49     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-27 13:11       ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-02-27 16:52         ` Andreas Rossberg [this message]
2010-02-27 18:10           ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-02-27 19:52             ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-02-27 20:32               ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-03-01 10:55                 ` Stéphane Glondu
2010-03-01 11:21                   ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-03-01 12:28                     ` Stéphane Glondu
2010-03-01 12:49                       ` David Allsopp
2010-03-01 13:06                       ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-03-01 12:49                     ` David Allsopp
2010-03-01 13:28                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-03-01 20:12                         ` David Allsopp
2010-03-02 10:22                           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-03-01 13:33                       ` Guillaume Yziquel
2010-03-01 20:18                         ` David Allsopp
2010-02-28  9:54         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-28 11:08           ` Guillaume Yziquel

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