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From: Dean Thompson <deansherthompson@gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Yallop <yallop@gmail.com>
Cc: "caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] how to encourage adoption of OCaml?
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:31:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7785E51D-EC74-4A78-8840-D4A7C18E3C56@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAxsn=FGC-BTx=W9DdbBpQenCRuJpV+zcOXJ61_SLOHPCZ6p8w@mail.gmail.com>

From my understanding so far, it seems to me that mixing and matching Core and not-Core would be tough? Everything from result types to Lwt vs Async? Given the inspirational and educational power of Real World OCaml, many newcomers will face this issue.

Dean


> On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Jeremy Yallop <yallop@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 30 June 2016 at 11:01, Dean Thompson <deansherthompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is hard for me to judge because I came through RWO, but it appears to me that the lack of consensus on standard library comes up pretty quickly.
> 
> I think the standard library situation is much less of a concern than
> it once was, now that it's easy to distribute small OCaml packages and
> manage dependencies.
> 
> In the past distribution difficulties discouraged dependencies: for
> example, even though many people prefer the design of ocaml-re and
> ocaml-pcre to the regular expression facilities in the standard
> library, the administrative overhead of an additional dependency made
> the standard library the easier choice overall.  In that situation
> it's desirable for the standard library to be large and featureful.
> Nowadays there's much less benefit to having regular expression
> support in the standard library, since depending on ocaml-re or
> ocaml-pcre is just a matter of adding a line to an opam file and a few
> lines to the build configuration.
> 
> The standard library still has a useful role to play, since it's
> easier to make libraries interoperate if they can communicate via
> common types, and several recent and proposed changes have that kind
> of role in mind.  For example, the latest release of OCaml added a
> 'result' type to the standard library, which was previously defined in
> incompatible but essentially equivalent ways in several libraries:
> 
>   https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/147
> 
> and there's a proposal for adding iterators to various container types
> for the next release currently under discussion:
> 
>   https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/635

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-30 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 10:01 Dean Thompson
2016-06-30 10:16 ` Kakadu
2016-06-30 10:41   ` Dean Thompson
2016-06-30 10:46   ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2016-06-30 10:17 ` Jeremy Yallop
2016-06-30 10:31   ` Dean Thompson [this message]
2016-06-30 12:12     ` Yaron Minsky
2016-06-30 13:13       ` Ivan Gotovchits
2016-07-01  0:13         ` Yaron Minsky
2016-07-01  0:41           ` [Caml-list] Async and lwt Hendrik Boom
2016-07-01  1:26             ` Yaron Minsky
2016-07-01 12:44           ` [Caml-list] how to encourage adoption of OCaml? Dean Thompson
2016-07-01 12:46             ` Yaron Minsky
2016-07-04 14:12           ` sp
2016-06-30 11:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2016-07-04 14:45 ` sp
2016-07-08 12:57   ` Dean Thompson
2016-07-08 13:45     ` Francois Berenger
2016-07-08 14:40     ` Gabriel Scherer
2016-07-08 15:16       ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-08 15:33         ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2016-07-08 16:25           ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-08 16:50             ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2016-07-08 16:54         ` Mohamed Iguernlala
2016-07-08 17:02           ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-08 17:09             ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-08 17:29               ` Kakadu
2016-07-08 17:41                 ` Dean Thompson
2016-07-08 17:49                   ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-08 17:28             ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-09 13:46             ` Ashish Agarwal
2016-07-09 13:51               ` Gabriel Scherer
2016-07-09 14:13                 ` Dean Thompson
2016-07-09 17:29                   ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-10 14:03                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2016-07-10 14:25                       ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10 14:29                         ` Jesse Haber-Kucharsky
2016-07-10 14:34                           ` Gabriel Scherer
2016-07-10 14:47                             ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10 16:45                               ` Glen Mével
2016-07-10 16:59                                 ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10 18:40                                   ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10  3:06                 ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10  2:32               ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-10 19:17                 ` Ashish Agarwal
2016-07-08 19:16         ` [Caml-list] Getting the word out Hendrik Boom
2016-07-08 20:51           ` moosotc
2016-07-08 22:48             ` Hendrik Boom
2016-07-08 20:57           ` Steven Shaw
2016-07-08 21:13             ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-08 22:54               ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-08 23:11                 ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-09 13:13                   ` Ashish Agarwal
2016-07-08 22:02           ` SP
2016-07-08 21:56         ` [Caml-list] how to encourage adoption of OCaml? SP
2016-07-08 22:18           ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2016-07-08 22:39             ` Duane Johnson
2016-07-08 23:00               ` Yotam Barnoy
2016-07-09 13:03             ` Armaël Guéneau
2016-07-09 13:42               ` Dean Thompson
2016-07-08 21:46       ` SP
2016-07-08 22:05         ` Robert Muller
2016-07-08 23:11           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2016-07-09  1:37             ` Markus Mottl
2016-07-09 22:19               ` Yaron Minsky

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