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From: John Prevost <jmp@arsdigita.com>
To: Dan Grossman <danieljg@cs.cornell.edu>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] bigarrays and toplevel on Win32?
Date: 07 Mar 2001 16:04:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874rx52ucu.fsf@elbereth.pgh.arsdigita.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3AA65B30.F354EA2@cs.cornell.edu>

>>>>> "dg" == Dan Grossman <danieljg@cs.cornell.edu> writes:

    dg> No.  If I could be guaranteed a core dump on my first
    dg> out-of-bounds access, I would be fine with this.  It's why my
    dg> C code sometimes doesn't check for null before dereferencing a
    dg> pointer.  But with arrays, you can silently corrupt arbitrary
    dg> memory.  Maybe your program crashes later.  Maybe it ends up
    dg> deleting all your files.  Maybe it never tells you that it
    dg> computed the wrong answer.

    dg> What I would be okay with was doing the bounds-check and
    dg> exiting (or core dumping if you prefer) on out-of-bounds.
    dg> This still gives an optimizer some leeway because
    dg> array-intensive code will have fewer exception-causing
    dg> instructions.

You have a good point here--I was just being cheeky.

I really look at the unsafe array operations as akin to the unsafe
magic cast operation.  None of them are appropriate for everyday
use--but if I go over a small piece of code with a fine-toothed comb
and prove to my satisfaction that everything is correct, it's
worthwhile to have them.  They're not the most ideologically sound
tools available, but I appreciate that O'Caml tends to balance
ideology with practicality more often than the other guys seem to.

John.
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      reply	other threads:[~2001-03-08 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-05  7:43 Chris Hecker
2001-03-05 16:57 ` Xavier Leroy
2001-03-05 17:37   ` Chris Hecker
2001-03-06 17:18     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-05 20:52   ` Bruce Hoult
2001-03-05 21:28   ` John Prevost
2001-03-07 16:00     ` Dan Grossman
2001-03-07 21:04       ` John Prevost [this message]

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