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From: "Chris King" <colanderman@gmail.com>
To: "Brian Hurt" <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Today's inflamatory opinion: exceptions are bad
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:35:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875c7e070612091935q2388092dr51538ff444d0e3a6@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612091823020.24657@barrayar.nyct.net>

On 12/9/06, Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org> wrote:
> The second reason is that match ... with doesn't break tail recursion,
> while try ... with does.  This code is not tail recursive:
>
> let rec echo_file channel =
>        try
>                begin
>                        let line = input_line channel in
>                        print_string (line ^ "\n");
>                        echo_file channel
>                end
>        with
>                | End_of_file -> ()
> ;;

I'm a big fan of Martin Jambon's "let try" syntax extension [1].  With
it the above construct can be written as:

let rec echo_file channel =
    let try line = input_line channel in
    print_string (line ^ "\n");
    echo_file channel
    with End_of_file -> ()

and would be tail-recursive.  More often than not this is how I want
to write my exception handlers.


> My point here is this: Ocaml is not Java (a fact we should all be
> gratefull for, IMHO).  Simply because Java and C++ do something, doesn't
> mean that it's a good thing to do.

One thing Java (sort of) gets right is keeping track of which
exceptions a function can throw, making it easy to ensure that some
deeply nested piece of code won't cause the entire application to die
from some obscure exception.  I'd love to see a similar feature in
O'Caml, whereby the exceptions which a function can raise are part of
its type and are inferred and checked by the compiler.  For example:

val List.assoc: 'a -> ('a * 'b) list -> 'b raises Not_found
val List.iter: ('a -> unit raises 'b) -> 'a list -> unit raises 'b

This would make it easy to spot which exceptions go uncaught in the
main function of a program (perhaps the compiler could even emit a
warning in this case), as well as allowing the programmer to ensure
that certain pieces of code won't raise arbitrary exceptions.  As an
example of the latter, a stricter version of List.iter could have the
type:

val iter_until: ('a -> unit raises Exit) -> 'a list -> unit

Of course, this system would probably require that type exn be
eschewed for something closer to a polymorphic variant so that typing
in 'catch' statements will work correctly.  Then types such as

val catch_failures: ('a -> 'b raises [Failure of string | 'c]) -> 'a
-> 'b raises 'c

would be possible.

- Chris

[1] http://martin.jambon.free.fr/extend-ocaml-syntax.html#lettry


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-10  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-10  1:42 Brian Hurt
2006-12-10  2:40 ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2006-12-10  2:51 ` Martin Jambon
2006-12-10  3:35 ` Chris King [this message]
2006-12-10  6:32   ` Jon Harrop
2006-12-10 19:07     ` brogoff
2006-12-10 18:04   ` Richard Jones
2006-12-10 23:27     ` Chris King
2006-12-11 15:55       ` Richard Jones
2006-12-15 11:13         ` Frédéric Gava
2006-12-11 17:28     ` Mike Lin
2006-12-11 20:09       ` Richard Jones
2006-12-11 23:38   ` Olivier Andrieu
     [not found]   ` <C841DA73-83D4-4CDD-BF4A-EA803C6D6A08@vub.ac.be>
2006-12-23  4:23     ` Ocaml checked exceptions Chris King
2006-12-10  6:30 ` [Caml-list] Today's inflamatory opinion: exceptions are bad malc
2006-12-10  6:36   ` malc
2006-12-10  6:56 ` Jon Harrop
2006-12-10  9:51 ` Andreas Rossberg
2006-12-10 11:00   ` Tom
2006-12-10 11:25     ` Andreas Rossberg
2006-12-10 13:27   ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2006-12-10 19:15     ` Haoyang Wang
2006-12-10 21:43       ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2006-12-11 13:10       ` Diego Olivier FERNANDEZ PONS
2006-12-10 18:31   ` Serge Aleynikov

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