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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: How to read different ints from a Bigarray?
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:00:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87639zd0m9.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnhegkik.q9j.sylvain@gallu.homelinux.org> (Sylvain Le Gall's message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:16:52 +0000 (UTC)")

Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On 28-10-2009, Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm working on binding s for linux libaio library (asynchron IO) with
>> a sharp eye on efficiency. That means no copying must be done on the
>> data, which in turn means I can not use string as buffer type.
>>
>> The best type for this seems to be a (int, int8_unsigned_elt,
>> c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t. So far so good.
>>
>> Now I define helper functions:
>>
>> let get_uint8 buf off = buf.{off}
>> let set_uint8 buf off x = buf.{off} <- x
>>
>> But I want more:
>>
>> get/set_int8 - do I use Obj.magic to "convert" to int8_signed_elt?
>>
>> And endian correcting access for larger ints:
>>
>> get/set_big_uint16
>> get/set_big_int16
>> get/set_little_uint16
>> get/set_little_int16
>> get/set_big_uint24
>> ...
>> get/set_little_int56
>> get/set_big_int64
>> get/set_little_int64
>>
>> What is the best way there? For uintXX I can get_uint8 each byte and
>> shift and add them together. But that feels inefficient as each access
>> will range check and the shifting generates a lot of code while cpus
>> can usualy endian correct an int more elegantly.
>>
>> Is it worth the overhead of calling a C function to write optimized
>> stubs for this?
>>
>> And last:
>>
>> get/set_string, blit_from/to_string
>>
>> Do I create a string where needed and then loop over every char
>> calling s.(i) <- char_of_int buf.{off+i}? Or better a C function using
>> memcpy?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Well, we talk about this a little bit, but here is my opinion:
> - calling a C function to add a single int will generate a big overhead
> - OCaml string are quite fast to modify values
>
> So to my mind the best option is to have a buffer string (say 16/32
> char) where you put data inside and flush it in a single C call to
> Bigarray. 
>
> E.g.:
> let append_char t c =
>   if t.idx >= 64 then
>     (
>       flush t.bigarray t.buffer;
>       t.idx <- 0
>     );
>   t.buffer.(t.idx) <- c;
>   t.idx <- t.idx + 1
>
> let append_little_uint16 t i =
>   append_char t ((i lsr 8) land 0xFF);
>   append_char t ((i lsr 0) land 0xFF)
>   
>
> I have used this kind of technique and it seems as fast as C, and a lot
> less C coding.
>
> Regards,
> Sylvain Le Gall

This wont work so nicely:

- Writes are not always in sequence. I want to do a stream access
  too where this could be verry effective. But the plain buffer is
  more for random / known offset access. At a minimum you would have
  holes for alignment.

- It makes read/write buffers complicated as you need to flush or peek
  the string in case of uncommited changes. I can't do write-only
  buffers as I want to be able to write a buffer and then add a
  checksum to it in my application. The lib should not block that.

- The data is passed to libaio and needs to be kept alive and unmoved
  as long as libaio knows it. I was hoping I could use the pointer to
  the data to register/unregister GC roots without having to add a
  another custom header and indirections.


I also still wonder how bad a C function call really is. Consider the
case of writing an int64.

Directly: You get one C call that does range check, endian convert and
write in one go.

Bffered: With your code you have 7 Int64 shifts, 8 Int64 lands, 8
conversions to int, at least one index check (more likely 8 to avoid
handling unaligned access) and 1/8 C call to blit the 64 byte buffer
string into the Bigarray.

MfG
        Goswin

PS: Is a.{i} <- x a C call?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-28 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 13:54 Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 14:16 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 15:00   ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-10-28 15:17     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 17:57       ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 18:19         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 21:05           ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 21:26             ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 22:48         ` [Caml-list] " blue storm
2009-10-29  9:50           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 10:34             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 12:20             ` Richard Jones
2009-10-29 17:07               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-30 20:30                 ` Richard Jones
2009-11-01 15:11                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-01 19:57                     ` Richard Jones
2009-11-02 16:11                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-02 16:33                         ` Mauricio Fernandez
2009-11-02 20:27                           ` Richard Jones
2009-11-03 13:18                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-02 20:48                           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 20:40     ` Florian Weimer
2009-10-29 21:04       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-29 23:43         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-30  0:48           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-29 23:38       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 15:37 ` [Caml-list] " Olivier Andrieu
2009-10-28 16:05   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 15:43 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-28 16:06   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 18:09   ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 17:09 ` Xavier Leroy
2009-10-28 19:05   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 17:05   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 18:42     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2009-10-29 19:03       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 18:48     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-29 23:25       ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-03 17:16 Charles Forsyth

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