From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A2FBC8B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:19:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1E1JBDs017501 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:19:12 +0100 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so1047446rne for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:19:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DJeY6N1YWRbtgmHcDlmVhbkLXoauG937bzc8tHwDtIoYDxG3Iv6QAwhjVyoLxaERe/M1tR6Wp1eqgyzHbNnOdrfTYR6Fly9Xfat0uVTPRMTlpOLsUeFvb77/mGmFlk4QpVWIwmZ8s9lRkmS605NEJf+V88knxkUmMvapPSJNR6M= Received: by 10.38.151.41 with SMTP id y41mr50634rnd; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.86.80 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:19:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <877e9a17050213171954b6cec0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:19:11 -0500 From: Michael Walter Reply-To: Michael Walter To: Thomas Fischbacher Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The boon of static type checking Cc: Daniel Heck , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <877e9a17050206221653d14456@mail.gmail.com> <20050213112630.73930e19@hobbes> <877e9a1705021312525337a907@mail.gmail.com> <877e9a1705021314512ff095b9@mail.gmail.com> <877e9a1705021316114d4e10f0@mail.gmail.com> X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 420FFC8F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 wrote:01 conceptually:01 ad-hoc:01 avoids:01 checking:01 physik:02 black:96 languages:03 tradeoff:03 narrowing:03 static:03 scheme:04 i'd:05 quite:06 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:42:11 +0100 (CET), Thomas Fischbacher wrote: > Judging from the .NET CLR specification, I'd say that conceptually, scheme > does the far better job, as it does not treat such lots of non-fundamental > ad-hoc concepts (in particular, everything related to OO) as fundamental. I forgot to reply to this point. This again is a tradeoff between conceptual purity and real world pragmatics. In this case, for instance interopability is simplified by narrowing the design space for CLR languages. It obviously avoids quite a bit of "Greenspunning", as well. The world is not black is not white-ly yours, Michael