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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml and Boehm
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:25:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877i1qlfip.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200904112136.13520.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (Jon Harrop's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:36:13 +0100")

Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> writes:

> On Saturday 11 April 2009 20:17:58 Ed Keith wrote:
>> --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
>> > From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml and Boehm
>> > To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
>> > Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 10:27 AM
>> >
>> > Also, don't forget that many people incorrectly claim that smart pointers
>> > deallocate at the earliest possible point when, in fact, they typically
>> > keep values alive longer than necessary.
>>
>> Could elaborate on this? I'm having a hard time envisioning a situation
>> where GC could free memory that smart pointers would not free.
>
> Smart pointers deallocate when values fall out of scope. GC deallocates when 
> it runs and values are unreachable.
>
> Consider:
>
>   let () =
>     let x = ..
>     f x
>     g()
>
> The value "x" stays in scope to the end of the block so a smart pointer will 
> not deallocate it. The GC may well run during "g", realise that "x" is 
> unreachable and deallocate it.
>
> Note that there are further unwanted side effects of smart pointers here. 
> Specifically, having to keep "x" around until the end of scope increases 
> register pressure and makes it more likely to values will be spilled, which 
> is a substantial performance cost.

How about cyclic records:

type r = { next : r }

let rec r1 { next = r2 } and r2 = { next = r1 }

Smart pointers will never free that since r1 kees r2 alive and r2
keeps r1 alive.

MfG
        Goswin


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-12  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-11 19:17 Ed Keith
2009-04-11 20:36 ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-12  3:25   ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-10 20:13 Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11  9:46 ` [Caml-list] " Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2009-04-11 10:42   ` Jon Harrop
     [not found]   ` <4a708d20904110511o7d390807r3d29400cf96d6f35@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <49E09C2D.4080906@starynkevitch.net>
2009-04-11 14:11       ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11 14:27         ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 14:40           ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-11 20:40             ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-11 15:03         ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2009-04-11 20:41           ` Jon Harrop
2009-04-13  9:42           ` Christoph Bauer
2009-04-13 13:15             ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-14  5:25               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12  3:34   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-12 12:09     ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2009-04-13 17:36 ` Xavier Leroy

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