From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8D8BC57 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 17:17:46 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqMCAIcG7UvZSMDqh2dsb2JhbACdeBUBAQEVCBoDH70dhRAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,229,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="59362002" Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 14 May 2010 17:17:46 +0200 Received: from smtp05.web.de ( [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F347515045073 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 17:17:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [78.43.204.177] (helo=frosties.localdomain) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #4) id 1OCwe1-0004OY-00 for caml-list@yquem.inria.fr; Fri, 14 May 2010 17:17:45 +0200 Received: from mrvn by frosties.localdomain with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OCwe6-0003Cx-E1 for caml-list@yquem.inria.fr; Fri, 14 May 2010 17:17:50 +0200 From: Goswin von Brederlow To: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] about OcamIL References: <951508.20587.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <201005061233.07551.peng.zang@gmail.com> <07b101caf08b$3e5022c0$baf06840$@com> <088201caf1ce$b5060cb0$1f122610$@com> <20100512151137.26894ywcpv71ixvk@imp.ovh.net> <012601caf351$e9a362e0$bcea28a0$@com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:17:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <012601caf351$e9a362e0$bcea28a0$@com> (Jon Harrop's message of "Fri, 14 May 2010 11:40:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87fx1uh5r5.fsf@frosties.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux, no MULE) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: goswin-v-b@web.de X-Sender: goswin-v-b@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18fnySaxon57YbGuE3CZw8NlQozkdRSZ5vpDft8 2kvaydzMD4GC+JEKXfLzD6KhKAW9Rw+Muopf6cONmDqkFYwQ/M uRFDJQI2Q= X-Spam: no; 0.00; bigloo:01 cheers:01 mfg:98 wrote:01 caml-list:01 writes:01 argument:02 argument:02 slower:02 languages:03 benchmark:04 benchmark:04 margin:94 xavier:06 benchmarks:07 Jon Harrop writes: > Xavier Clerc wrote: >> Limiting myself to the JVM... >> Moreover, at least Scala and Bigloo deliver excellent performances. > > I have benchmarks where the JVM is well over 10x slower than .NET. So I do > not regard any JVM-based language as "high performance". > > Cheers, > Jon. You can pretty much write a benchmark for any 2 languages that specifically targets the weekness of one and the strength of the other showing that one is better than the other by a wide margin. You can usualy reverse the argument with a different benchmark. So your argument as such says nothing about JVM, just something about your benchmarks. MfG Goswin