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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] How to read different ints from a Bigarray?
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:05:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iqdz5ogp.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE87AB9.5020607@inria.fr> (Xavier Leroy's message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:09:13 +0100")

Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr> writes:

> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>> I'm working on binding s for linux libaio library (asynchron IO) with
>> a sharp eye on efficiency. That means no copying must be done on the
>> data, which in turn means I can not use string as buffer type.
>> 
>> The best type for this seems to be a (int, int8_unsigned_elt,
>> c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t. So far so good.
>
> That's a reasonable choice.

Actualy signed seems better. Easier to get an int and mask out the
lower 8 bit to get unsigned then sign extend. Or?

>> Now I define helper functions:
>> 
>> let get_uint8 buf off = buf.{off}
>> let set_uint8 buf off x = buf.{off} <- x
>> 
>> But I want more:
>> 
>> get/set_int8 - do I use Obj.magic to "convert" to int8_signed_elt?
>
> Not at all.  If you ask OCaml's typechecker to infer the type of
> get_uint8, you'll see that it returns a plain OCaml "int" (in the
> 0...255 range). Likewise, the "x" parameter to "set_uint8" has type
> "int" (of which only the 8 low bits are used).

The point was to make get_int8 to return an int in the -128..127
range and get_uint8 in the 0..255 range. That both are int doesn't
matter.

> Repeat after me: "Obj.magic is not part of the OCaml language".

Somebody else suggested to create an (int, int8_unsigned_elt,
c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t and (int, int8_signed_elt,
c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t and (int, int16_unsigned_elt,
c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t and (int, int16_signed_elt,
c_layout) Bigarray.Array1.t and ... that all point to the same block
of bits. As evil as Obj.Magic I guess but might work nicely.

>> And endian correcting access for larger ints:
>> 
>> get/set_big_uint16
>> get/set_big_int16
>> get/set_little_uint16
>> get/set_little_int16
>> get/set_big_uint24
>> ...
>> get/set_little_int56
>> get/set_big_int64
>> get/set_little_int64
>
> The "56" functions look like a bit of overkill to me :-)

For one part I am storing keys in there consisting of

struct Key {
  uint64_t type:8; // enum { TYPE1, TYPE2, TYPE3, ... };
  uint64_t inode:56;
  uint64_t data;
}

That gives a nice 16 bytes for a key but requires splitting the first
uint64_t into 8 and 56 bit.  I could provide only get_int64 and split
that in ocaml but what the hell. A function more or less doesn't kill
me.

>> What is the best way there? For uintXX I can get_uint8 each byte and
>> shift and add them together. But that feels inefficient as each access
>> will range check
>
> Not necessarily.  OCaml 3.11 introduced unchecked accesses to
> bigarrays, so you can range-check yourself once, then perform
> unchecked accesses.  Use with caution...

I'm always verry cautious of such. In the existing code I already
needed some unsafe_string that I really didn't like. Need to add
phantom types to get rid of them some day.

>> and the shifting generates a lot of code while cpus
>> can usualy endian correct an int more elegantly.
>> 
>> Is it worth the overhead of calling a C function to write optimized
>> stubs for this?
>
> The only way to know is to benchmark both approaches :-(  My guess is
> that for 16-bit accesses, you're better off with a pure Caml solution,
> but for 64-bit accesses, a C function could be faster.
>
> - Xavier Leroy

Writing benchmark code, writing, writing. Now where is that big endian
cpu to test converting from little endian? :)))

MfG
        Goswin


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-28 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 13:54 Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 14:16 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 15:00   ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 15:17     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 17:57       ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 18:19         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 21:05           ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 21:26             ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 22:48         ` [Caml-list] " blue storm
2009-10-29  9:50           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 10:34             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 12:20             ` Richard Jones
2009-10-29 17:07               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-30 20:30                 ` Richard Jones
2009-11-01 15:11                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-01 19:57                     ` Richard Jones
2009-11-02 16:11                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-02 16:33                         ` Mauricio Fernandez
2009-11-02 20:27                           ` Richard Jones
2009-11-03 13:18                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-02 20:48                           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 20:40     ` Florian Weimer
2009-10-29 21:04       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-29 23:43         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-30  0:48           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-29 23:38       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 15:37 ` [Caml-list] " Olivier Andrieu
2009-10-28 16:05   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 15:43 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2009-10-28 16:06   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-28 18:09   ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-28 17:09 ` Xavier Leroy
2009-10-28 19:05   ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-10-29 17:05   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 18:42     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2009-10-29 19:03       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-10-29 18:48     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-10-29 23:25       ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow

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